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by **Neil Charlto** » Mon, 27 May 2002 18:48:47

Hi all,

After much appreciated help from the newsgroup I have now had my copy of
NR2002 for 4 days and have completed my first league race (it was great fun
and very intense).

I have just a few queries left:

1. I have searched for and downloaded a nNoCD fix for the patched version
of the game. This works fine except it won't work in multiplayer (Sierra
reports it as out of date). Pratting about with the CD is an immense PITA -
anyone know of a fix that works with the patched version of the game?

2. I am a little confused over gear shifts. I have the clutch assigned to a
button but, as in GPL, I don't use it on track. In GPL it's just throttle
off for downshift and a slight lift for upshift. What's the correct way in
NR2002 - I don't want to be blowing any motors in these 2 hour races. I have
all aids off but have set clutch to auto but can't really feel any
difference. Any ideas?

Thanks in anticipation

by **Phil Le** » Mon, 27 May 2002 19:04:09

You have to have your CD present to race on Sierra. There is no alternative.

Unless you have a clutch pedal I would set it up to use the auto-clutch
option. You change gears in N2002 the same way as in GPL except you do it a
lot less often. On the ovals you should only use the gears when pitting and
during caution periods. During green flag periods you stick to 4th gear all
the time, except maybe at Pocono and the road courses of course. In my
experience you are more likely to lose gears rather than blow an engine if
you change gear badly. Engines blowups are usually caused by too much tape
for the weather conditions.

Phil
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by **Don Schwartz J** » Mon, 27 May 2002 22:35:52

The only way around using the CD for online play is to make an image of your
cd with CdClone and mount it with Daemon Tools.
Don

by **Neil Charlto** » Mon, 27 May 2002 23:08:48

Thx Phil - appreciate that.

[snip]

by **Bob Fellenbau** » Tue, 28 May 2002 00:47:50

Here are the instructions for Daemon Tools. I use this for any software that
requires the CD. CD's are used for installing software, not running it. ;-)
You ac get CloneCD here http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/index.html
and Daemon Tools here http://www.daemon-tools.com/

1) Install Daemon Tools, create a folder within D-Tools folser called N2K2.
2) Put N2K2 CD in CDDrive, open Clone CD, select read to image file.
3) Select your CDDrive that you put the disk into, hit next.
4) Set Read Speed to Max and check box "Read Subchannel Data from Data
Tracks", hit next.
5) Browse to the folder you created in D-Tools, probably C:\Program
Files\D-Tools\N2K2, hit OK.
6) When image file is done, remove CD from drive. Right Click on Daemon
Tools icon in systray. Select Virtual CDROM and mount image to Device 0.
7) Right click on Daemon Tools icon in systray and uncheck Autostart in
Options. (the only thing that should be checked is Automount).

Your Done!

> The only way around using the CD for online play is to make an image of
your
> cd with CdClone and mount it with Daemon Tools.
> Don

> > Hi all,

> > After much appreciated help from the newsgroup I have now had my copy of
> > NR2002 for 4 days and have completed my first league race (it was great
> fun
> > and very intense).

> > I have just a few queries left:

> > 1. I have searched for and downloaded a nNoCD fix for the patched
version
> > of the game. This works fine except it won't work in multiplayer (Sierra
> > reports it as out of date). Pratting about with the CD is an immense
> PITA -
> > anyone know of a fix that works with the patched version of the game?

> > 2. I am a little confused over gear shifts. I have the clutch assigned
to
> a
> > button but, as in GPL, I don't use it on track. In GPL it's just
throttle
> > off for downshift and a slight lift for upshift. What's the correct way
in
> > NR2002 - I don't want to be blowing any motors in these 2 hour races. I
> have
> > all aids off but have set clutch to auto but can't really feel any
> > difference. Any ideas?

> > Thanks in anticipation

by **Neil Charlto** » Tue, 28 May 2002 06:30:31

Thx Bob - really appreciate that :)

http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/index.html
[snip]

by **Larr** » Tue, 28 May 2002 14:18:21

You know, I _still_ can't get this to work since moving to NR2002. I had no
problems with N4 at all.

What version of Daemon Tools are you using? I'm using the latest one (3.11
I think). Maybe that's the problem. Maybe only the older 2.x versions work
right?

I normally create my raw ISO's with DDump 1.10 (it works, and it's free),
but I tried CDClone 4. I had the same lock-up problems with that resulting
ISO.

PC's... What fun :)

-Larry

> The only way around using the CD for online play is to make an image of
your
> cd with CdClone and mount it with Daemon Tools.
> Don

> > Hi all,

> > After much appreciated help from the newsgroup I have now had my copy of
> > NR2002 for 4 days and have completed my first league race (it was great
> fun
> > and very intense).

> > I have just a few queries left:

> > 1. I have searched for and downloaded a nNoCD fix for the patched
version
> > of the game. This works fine except it won't work in multiplayer (Sierra
> > reports it as out of date). Pratting about with the CD is an immense
> PITA -
> > anyone know of a fix that works with the patched version of the game?

> > 2. I am a little confused over gear shifts. I have the clutch assigned
to
> a
> > button but, as in GPL, I don't use it on track. In GPL it's just
throttle
> > off for downshift and a slight lift for upshift. What's the correct way
in
> > NR2002 - I don't want to be blowing any motors in these 2 hour races. I
> have
> > all aids off but have set clutch to auto but can't really feel any
> > difference. Any ideas?

> > Thanks in anticipation

by **Larr** » Tue, 28 May 2002 14:19:43

Hmmm.... Maybe I don't have a CDClone option set right. I'll try again with
your settings.

-Larry

http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/index.html

> and Daemon Tools here http://www.daemon-tools.com/

> 1) Install Daemon Tools, create a folder within D-Tools folser called
N2K2.
> 2) Put N2K2 CD in CDDrive, open Clone CD, select read to image file.
> 3) Select your CDDrive that you put the disk into, hit next.
> 4) Set Read Speed to Max and check box "Read Subchannel Data from Data
> Tracks", hit next.
> 5) Browse to the folder you created in D-Tools, probably C:\Program
> Files\D-Tools\N2K2, hit OK.
> 6) When image file is done, remove CD from drive. Right Click on Daemon
> Tools icon in systray. Select Virtual CDROM and mount image to Device 0.
> 7) Right click on Daemon Tools icon in systray and uncheck Autostart in
> Options. (the only thing that should be checked is Automount).

> Your Done!

> > The only way around using the CD for online play is to make an image of
> your
> > cd with CdClone and mount it with Daemon Tools.
> > Don

> > > Hi all,

> > > After much appreciated help from the newsgroup I have now had my copy
of
> > > NR2002 for 4 days and have completed my first league race (it was
great
> > fun
> > > and very intense).

> > > I have just a few queries left:

> > > 1. I have searched for and downloaded a nNoCD fix for the patched
> version
> > > of the game. This works fine except it won't work in multiplayer
(Sierra
> > > reports it as out of date). Pratting about with the CD is an immense
> > PITA -
> > > anyone know of a fix that works with the patched version of the game?

> > > 2. I am a little confused over gear shifts. I have the clutch
assigned
> to
> > a
> > > button but, as in GPL, I don't use it on track. In GPL it's just
> throttle
> > > off for downshift and a slight lift for upshift. What's the correct
way
> in
> > > NR2002 - I don't want to be blowing any motors in these 2 hour races.
I
> > have
> > > all aids off but have set clutch to auto but can't really feel any
> > > difference. Any ideas?

> > > Thanks in anticipation

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 28 May 2002 23:36:51

I used your method for n4, it worked great, haven't gotten around to it
yet for N2002, but I still get lockups in N2002 when using the faster opengl
rasterizer. Try using both graphic options and see if that helps.
dave henrie

by **Larr** » Wed, 29 May 2002 09:13:55

Dave,

You aren't the only one having problems with lockups with the new OGL
rasterizer!

I've been fighting this ALL weekend. I've done everything up to and
including formatting the drive and reinstalling all the Multi-Boot OS's
(actually, 3 different boots of WinXP Home on the same drive). Took 20 hrs
of my weekend :(

There is no problem with D3D, except for the framerate issue that Papy knows
about. I fixed that by replacing the new D3D Dll with the original from the
CD as recommened on the NR2002 Online Racing welcome page.

This frame rate problem is, in fact, the reason I backed off so much during
the Loudon race towards the end. It cost me 3 positions, but I didn't want
to***anyone up. I started the race at 60fps, and by the time the end
came I was down to the low ***s!

I'm thinking that the new OGL DLL is also bad. I haven't tried replacing it
with the original yet because the old D3D is working ok, and my frame rates
are up in the 70's. Not to mention I can set my refresh to 85hz in dxdiag
and not get a headache! I havent found a reliable refresh rate fix for OGL
since NvRefFix died off :(

But I really prefer OGL. I'm not sure why Papy gave it such back-seat
status in NR2002.

-Larry

> > You know, I _still_ can't get this to work since moving to NR2002. I
had
> no
> > problems with N4 at all.

> > What version of Daemon Tools are you using? I'm using the latest one
> (3.11
> > I think). Maybe that's the problem. Maybe only the older 2.x versions
> work
> > right?

> > I normally create my raw ISO's with DDump 1.10 (it works, and it's
free),
> > but I tried CDClone 4. I had the same lock-up problems with that
> resulting
> > ISO.

> > PC's... What fun :)

> > -Larry
> I used your method for n4, it worked great, haven't gotten around to it
> yet for N2002, but I still get lockups in N2002 when using the faster
opengl
> rasterizer. Try using both graphic options and see if that helps.
> dave henrie

by **Don Schwartz J** » Wed, 29 May 2002 11:12:10

I'm using Daemon 2.74 and ConeCd 3.3.4.1 but I have a freind that is using
newer versions. I check both subchannel boxes when making the image and
install the game from the image once it is mounted in Daemon. This is the
only way I could get it to work.
Don

by **Larr** » Thu, 30 May 2002 12:41:01

I'll give that a try. Thanks :)

-Larry

> I'm using Daemon 2.74 and ConeCd 3.3.4.1 but I have a freind that is using
> newer versions. I check both subchannel boxes when making the image and
> install the game from the image once it is mounted in Daemon. This is the
> only way I could get it to work.
> Don

> > You know, I _still_ can't get this to work since moving to NR2002. I
had
> no
> > problems with N4 at all.

> > What version of Daemon Tools are you using? I'm using the latest one
> (3.11
> > I think). Maybe that's the problem. Maybe only the older 2.x versions
> work
> > right?

> > I normally create my raw ISO's with DDump 1.10 (it works, and it's
free),
> > but I tried CDClone 4. I had the same lock-up problems with that
> resulting
> > ISO.

> > PC's... What fun :)

> > -Larry

> > "

by **Eldre** » Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:16:17

>4) Set Read Speed to Max and check box "Read Subchannel Data from Data
>Tracks", hit next.

I never saw that option... version 4.0.1.3

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by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:25:10

"EldredP"

After you insert the cd to be copied, you will then get a box with 4
types of cd..audio, data, game, or multimedia. If you right click on the
game cd icon, you will get to the options described above.
dave henrie

by **Eldre** » Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:21:32

>"EldredP"
>> >4) Set Read Speed to Max and check box "Read Subchannel Data from Data
>> >Tracks", hit next.

>> I never saw that option... version 4.0.1.3

>> Eldred

> After you insert the cd to be copied, you will then get a box with 4
>types of cd..audio, data, game, or multimedia. If you right click on the
>game cd icon, you will get to the options described above.

Oh - *right* click? I just double clicked on it...phooey.
Thanks.

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