rec.autos.simulators

You do realize ISI and Simbin are not the same organization don't you?

--
Scott B. Husted
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

  I understand Richards Burns is a good title...happy simming.

dave henrie

You can try and justify your pathetic actions and approach any way you like
but it doesn't alter the fact that you are a thief who is preaching theft.

BK

as for support. drop one of the dev's an email or pm through the forums if
you have a problem.  as they work their way through them all, they'll answer
when they can.  they're actively in the forums helping out with issues that
people post.

but you can't keep everyone happy.  I respect your view that you aren't
happy with them.  but thats your opinion and you're entitled to it.  its
different to mine, but doesn't make either of us right :)

cheers

steve

   Yes, imagine the hide stiffing a wonderful, honest bunch like Simbin -
how can people live with themselves. Everyone knows they have that perfect
multiplay they worked oh so ***.

..........but not on GTR tracks he's already payed for....................

I own all three games.  I didn't say a thing about the legality of the
issue.  ISI can do what it wants.  What I said was that I don't think ISI is
doing the wise thing if they want to support community involvement and
continue to make its customers pleased, which is only good for them.  It's
the old shooting themselves in the foot or the nose-face deal.

Alanb

I'm still confused on why you are mad at ISI for not helping "the
community" steal SimBin's tracks?   *scratches head*

The fact remains ISI has produced a sim with the most open architecture
this community has ever seen. They are working on tools to help the mod
community make items for their sim.  I think ISI has done the most, by
far, of any developer in sim racing to promote their sim through
community involvement and development.

--
Scott B. Husted
http://www.Husted.cc

Mitch

Well you are saying they should do whatever it takes to make the

You're probably right [Stop].  The only thing is that I don't think they
should sweat it.  It's not like they are losing cash.  Let it be and be easy
and allow it.  That way the community doesn't have the feeling that ISI is
only about the money, which will stop others, in the long run, from
purchasing an ISI product in the future.  I think that by getting all out of
sorts because of this track thing is just not a good PR move: let things be
and move on.  Heck, if they would've been a little proactive ISI could've
charged a small fee for the conversions and done it themselves.  I think
most would pay five bills a track to get these into rFactor and all would've
been fine and settled.

Alanb

As for ISI/Simbin allowing tracks from one to another, you are living in
fantasy land.  They are competitors, perhaps you don't understand business
real well.  Remember, these guys actually have a job and need to earn a
living right?

Yeah, ISI should just charge a small fee and sell Simbin's tracks.
Excellent idea!  I'm sure Simbin wont mind...

Now, I do own GTR (and GTL), so I'm not going to feel guilty about
installing these converted tracks if I can d/l them, but your argument
against ISI seems WAY OFF BASE!  They have done everything (legally)
that they can to make rFactor as open to modding as they can - but you
are expecting them to cross the line of legality and actively promote
stealing another company's products...  If you want to criticize Simbin
for not giving away their tracks, then go ahead (Although I think that
criticism is ridiculous also!).

The more I read your posts, the more I keep wondering if you realize
that SImbin and ISI are two completely seperate companies -- and in
many ways competitors.  You probably need to understand that fact
before continuing your argument...

CK

I meant SimBin.  I know they are different.  :)

Alanb