At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling with
the suspension I'm having a ball.
I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
Anyone else using this setting?
85/30 (the default) makes it very difficult to turn the car in, and I don't
think the diff should "impose" too much of oversteer/understeer on your car, the
balance should come from elsewhere...
I think that generally, the tighter the curves, the more "open" diff. And the
fast corners need a closed diff, in particular on the accel side...
I use 60/60 or greater on all tracks now.
---Asgeir---
> At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling with
> the suspension I'm having a ball.
> I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
> Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
> Anyone else using this setting?
Md
> I have been trying a 45/85 diff lately after i read somewhere that is what
> real cars use.
> At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling with
> the suspension I'm having a ball.
> I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
> Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
> Anyone else using this setting?
The main advantage with the locked up power side lies in getting the power
down early. But otherwise, as Asgeir says, the higher numbers allow the car
to turn better (diff doesn't work against speed difference between rear
wheels).
If I were you I'd be running 60/85 at Monza.
Jan.
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>At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling with
>the suspension I'm having a ball.
>I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
>Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
>Anyone else using this setting?
-- Greger
>I've been using 45/60 for a few weeks, mostly with the Lotus, and I've
>broken my old records on most of the tracks by 0.4 seconds. The car is
>a bit harder to drive but definately more fun and *definately* faster.
>-- Greger
Regards,
Kurt
Thanks.
>>I have been trying a 45/85 diff lately after i read somewhere that is what
>>real cars use.
>>At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling with
>>the suspension I'm having a ball.
>>I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
>>Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
>>Anyone else using this setting?
>I've been using 45/60 for a few weeks, mostly with the Lotus, and I've
>broken my old records on most of the tracks by 0.4 seconds. The car is
>a bit harder to drive but definately more fun and *definately* faster.
>-- Greger
Now I know what D.Kaemmer. was on about! 1:28.5's at Monza right now. I'm
working towards a low 1:28 (maybe even 1:27 :-) ) at Monza with a race
setup.
You might find that if you mess around with the toe settings (rear) that
you can actually tune out some of the tendency towards power on
oversteer, and also the tendency to walk about its rotational axis under
braking (front).
GPL...the sim that keeps on giving :)...unfortunately I only have time
to play once or twice a month now... SACRILEGE!!
TJSB
> I use 45/85 and 60/85 settings on my Eagle. I had tried this in the past and
> became very frustrated with the results. I could make the car run very
> quickly but it was quite nervous in a race. After returning to 85/45 and
> 85/60 settings I decided to give it one more go with extremly conservative
> (understeering) settings. I also used the shortest gears I could to avoid
> wheelspin. I found that the car behaved a lot better. Then I dialed in some
> taller gears and dialed out the understeer and the car felt great. Of course
> I had to do a lot of tweaking to get the car to feel just right. I have to
> be precise and smooth with my control inputs, especially with the throttle,
> but the car responds a lot more smoothly than before.
> Now I know what D.Kaemmer. was on about! 1:28.5's at Monza right now. I'm
> working towards a low 1:28 (maybe even 1:27 :-) ) at Monza with a race
> setup.
> > I have been trying a 45/85 diff lately after i read somewhere that is what
> > real cars use.
> > At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling
> with
> > the suspension I'm having a ball.
> > I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
> > Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
> > Anyone else using this setting?
Md
> Another important thing to keep in mind is the less pre-load (clutches)
> the more the diff is allowed to operate smoothly. Too many clutches and
> the diff functions almost solely on pre-load without the ramps coming
> into play.
> You might find that if you mess around with the toe settings (rear) that
> you can actually tune out some of the tendency towards power on
> oversteer, and also the tendency to walk about its rotational axis under
> braking (front).
> GPL...the sim that keeps on giving :)...unfortunately I only have time
> to play once or twice a month now... SACRILEGE!!
> TJSB
> > I use 45/85 and 60/85 settings on my Eagle. I had tried this in the past and
> > became very frustrated with the results. I could make the car run very
> > quickly but it was quite nervous in a race. After returning to 85/45 and
> > 85/60 settings I decided to give it one more go with extremly conservative
> > (understeering) settings. I also used the shortest gears I could to avoid
> > wheelspin. I found that the car behaved a lot better. Then I dialed in some
> > taller gears and dialed out the understeer and the car felt great. Of course
> > I had to do a lot of tweaking to get the car to feel just right. I have to
> > be precise and smooth with my control inputs, especially with the throttle,
> > but the car responds a lot more smoothly than before.
> > Now I know what D.Kaemmer. was on about! 1:28.5's at Monza right now. I'm
> > working towards a low 1:28 (maybe even 1:27 :-) ) at Monza with a race
> > setup.
> > > I have been trying a 45/85 diff lately after i read somewhere that is what
> > > real cars use.
> > > At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling
> > with
> > > the suspension I'm having a ball.
> > > I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
> > > Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
> > > Anyone else using this setting?
>>I've been using 45/60 for a few weeks, mostly with the Lotus, and I've
>>broken my old records on most of the tracks by 0.4 seconds. The car is
>>a bit harder to drive but definately more fun and *definately* faster.
>>-- Greger
>Keep tinkering, Greger. One of these days you'll probably get pretty good
>at this stuff.
>;-)
-- Greger
>Do you use a split-axis (dual axis, whatever) wheel unit Gregger?
>Just wondering.
-- Greger
> At first I hated it,the car was too hard to control, but after fiddling with
> the suspension I'm having a ball.
> I'm down to just 0.2 off my PB at monza in the Ferrari.
> Is this diff setting correct for '67 cars?
> Anyone else using this setting?
I tried an 85 braking ramp, but it was too loose under braking. 60 gives me a
bit up turn-in understeer, but lots of trail braking gets me turning in fairly
well.
-Greg
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Thats's right. I vary the diff settings, depending on the circuit, but only
ever use 1 clutch. I found the car is much more willing to turn corners that
way.
> >>I've been using 45/60 for a few weeks, mostly with the Lotus, and I've
> >>broken my old records on most of the tracks by 0.4 seconds. The car is
> >>a bit harder to drive but definately more fun and *definately* faster.
> >Do you use a split-axis (dual axis, whatever) wheel unit Gregger?
> >Just wondering.
> Yes, I use split axis pedals in GPL with my TM F1. It's a pretty good
> wheel and I like the pedals. Lately there has been some noises coming
> from inside the wheel unit, though. Oh well, it has worked well for 1
> 1/2 years, only needed to change two springs in the brake pedal and
> two pots for the steering wheel. :)
> -- Greger
-Bj?rn
