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by **Olav K. Malm** » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:18:00

> > I hope that Sierra sales suffer because of their isolationist attitude.

> Bah stop being martyred Bruce. It's just normal that you'll always find a
> person who will want a version of any sort of title released in his country,
> especially when the *** business creates non-international shipping of
> it's software. The same goes for about any form of Entertainment. People
> all around the world whine that their favorite group hasn't yet released
> their newest CD in their country, or that the new Star Wars movie was
> released many months after North America (there is a big tendency so that
> Episode II becomes the first movie in history to be released the say day
> throughout the world). So see the trend is slowly growing, it just takes
> time Bruce. Calm down if you want you will have Nascar Racing 4 the same
> day as everybody else.

Wasn't James Bond The World is not Enough relesed all around the world
on the same day ? Anyway, it is a good think that the moviemakers
finally learn that to fight DVD's imports to europe they have to
relese the movies sooner, not introducing a stupid region system every
player on the market ignores.

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by **Zonk** » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:31:55

>>According to High Gear, NASCAR 4 will only be released in North
>>America and Germany (!).

>Which is at least one step better than NH. :-)
>But why in the world Germany? They probably have done their
>research, but I'm not aware of a NASCAR following over here.
>And the sporadic coverage on EuroSport is the same for every-
>one on this continent ...

>Jan

Germany is the 2nd biggest PC *** market outside the US.

Z.

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by **Ed Solhei** » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:46:40

Make that 24% tax now Olav...

They upped it this year :-(

Ed_
(why do I live here???)

by **Dave Cas** » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:46:05

Pssst. This is what a debit card is for. No interest. Accepted anywhere
credit cards are accepted. I haven't used a credit card in three years now
and haven't missed it all. And I've bought a ton of stuff on-line.

Dave Casey
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by **Jan Loebzie** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:56:13

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:08:04 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"

>Perhaps the exchange rate is good?

Hehe, that's a good explanation. But then, it's the same in
whole EuroLand (as far as overseas business goes, I think).

Jan

by **Jan Loebzie** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:03:36

>Germany is the 2nd biggest PC *** market outside the US.

Actually it's the biggest *** market outside of the US, i.e
the second biggest in the world. :-).
Still that didn't keep Hasblo/Microprose from *not* selling NH
over here, even though the latter certainly had more mass
market appeal than N4.

Jan

by **Olav K. Malm** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:10:04

> Make that 24% tax now Olav...

> They upped it this year :-(

> Ed_
> (why do I live here???)

Good question :) There are a lot of things in this country that are
not as they should be, but I think you find that in most
countries. There's still heaps of positives though, and the skiing
season is finally here :)

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by **The Enigmatic O** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:39:29

Much less consumer protection with a debit card. I love mine, but
never use it online. Rather, I use my credit cards and pay them off
immediately.

-Tim

by **Olav K. Malm** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:42:51

Things works different around the world it seems. I have no interest
rates on my credit card, unless i forget (or cant afford:) to pay the
bill.

I feel perfectly safe using it on the net because I get a detailed
list of the transactions along with the bill each month.

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by **Scott B. Huste** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 04:19:52

You don't pay interest on a credit card if you pay your balance off in full
at the end of the month. Get a card with no annual fee and you're set.
Unless of course you have bad or no credit.

Scott B. Husted
"Profit"

> I hope that Sierra sales suffer because of their isolationist attitude.

> This modern trend towards HAVING to buy something on-line, with a credit
> card, pisses me off well-and-truly.
> I am fed up with paying a premium (interest charges) because I cannot buy
> something over the counter for cash.

> May the bean counters at Sierra ***to death on their caf latts.

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------

> > But then it seems that more and more online stores have adopted a
> > 'no delivery outside of USA' policy over the last years. Or to be more
> precise,
> > it seems almost all acknowledge those pesky 'Not for sale outside of US'
> > markings on the packages these days. So, which are those online stores
> > that will ship US versions to Europe regardless ? Any hints ?

> > Thomas

by **Scott B. Huste** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 04:22:21

I'd be more upset that I actually bought GP3 at all rather than how I
purchased it ;)

Scott B. Husted
"Profit"

> LOL Bruce, shows you how frustrated i was when i wrote that,
> especially as Australia has one of the biggest fan bases of Oval series
> racing, including NASCAR, outside of the USA..

> Then you get guys saying, "buy it on the internet"..
> Yet the same guys were screaming blue *** when GP3 wasn't released
> in the states and THEY had to buy it on the internet..

> I am not a Warez user, (never have been) but sometimes, just
> sometimes, the idiots that make these pathetic decisions tend to push
> people to the brink of legality.

> Cheers,
> Ron

> ps.. as a true blue Ozzie, it has to be "true colour" <G>

> > "Graphical location" Ron.

> > What's that...higher than 256 colours but less than True Colour 32
> bit?

> > :-)
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------

by **The Enigmatic O** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:28:39

I think you misunderstood. With a credit card, you have some basic
protections against fraud that don't apply to a debit card. Thus, it is much
saner to use a credit card to purchase online, or any large purchase, really,
than a debit card.

-Tim

by **Eldre** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:03:18

>I hope that Sierra sales suffer because of their isolationist attitude.

>This modern trend towards HAVING to buy something on-line, with a credit
>card, pisses me off well-and-truly.
>I am fed up with paying a premium (interest charges) because I cannot buy
>something over the counter for cash.

If you pay the card off every month, there's no interest...<g>

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by **CD Rom** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:46:51

> >According to High Gear, NASCAR 4 will only be released in North
> >America and Germany (!).

> Which is at least one step better than NH. :-)
> But why in the world Germany? They probably have done their
> research, but I'm not aware of a NASCAR following over here.
> And the sporadic coverage on EuroSport is the same for every-
> one on this continent ...

> Jan

Isn't Germany where Gerhard Lingenberg is from? He's the genious
who gave us the Brickyard in NASCAR 2 and NASCAR 3. It's only right that
they release it in Germany if it they could only release it in the US and
one other country.<g>

by **J Moor** » Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:26:49

Haven't you heard of courier charges??! ;-)

I managed to get N3 when I was over in the states but I was back in the UK when
the N3 expansion came out. I ended up paying more in courier, postage and
packing than I did for the game...

If US based games like Dirt Track Racing Sprint Cars (which have NO tv coverage
/ following in the UK), can make it on to British shelves why not N4?

> > I know that some americans are going to say : "Here's for GP3, GP500
> > and so on", which I understand, but why is it so difficult to release
> > something world wide. Haven't they heard about the Internet ?

> I think it's more "Haven't you heard about the internet ?". There is plenty
> of online *** stores where you will be able to buy Nascar Racing 4. The
> days of saying "I can't buy it because I'm in a foreign country" are over.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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