LOL - C'mon..... "starting from near zero" ????
iRacing is NR2003+
There was no starting from zero. Hell, if they were half as smart as
expected....
they would take NR2003, then decompile (not that it's necessary) rFactor and
make a combination of the two. Seems to me that iRacing has spent all their
time and money on "GPS'ing the proposed tracks" ;) Anyway... it's
mostly forgotten from my point of view.
:)
> Don't feel too bad... Karting National Champion, F-SuperB, F-1200, F-2000,
> F-Dodge
> 10-12 years of simming...... " not a good candidate " for beta testing -
> lol
All the best, uwe
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I'm sure it will be a fine sim when it arrives but those of us that
have registered on the site for updates and are serious about
(possibly) becoming part of this need more frequent updates, even if
they are minor ones. Posting here is nice, but if someone has signed
up and given you the info called for then they should get more than
one update every few months just to keep the interest going and the
word out IMHO.
Me, I live 45 minutes from Limerock and run there about 15-20 times
per year. Sure would have been nice to know about iRacing's presence
there ahead of time...
Still looking forward to the sim.
Gary P.
>Yes we are, thanks. :)
> I'm sure it will be a fine sim when it arrives but those of us that
> have registered on the site for updates and are serious about
> (possibly) becoming part of this need more frequent updates, even if
> they are minor ones. Posting here is nice, but if someone has signed
> up and given you the info called for then they should get more than
> one update every few months just to keep the interest going and the
> word out IMHO.
> Me, I live 45 minutes from Limerock and run there about 15-20 times
> per year. Sure would have been nice to know about iRacing's presence
> there ahead of time...
> Still looking forward to the sim.
> Gary P.
>>> Are they doing anything at this point other than spending John Henry's
>>> money on real life racing? :)
>>Yes we are, thanks. :)
> >> Don't you mean " if" it gets here?
> >> Sheese, I mean how long have they been talking about this now?
> >> --
> >> Don
> > About as long as most developers do.
> > I recently started playing a space game (another genre I like other
> > than racing simulations) that was 6 years in the making - and the
> > developers still plan to update it over the next few years.
> > If you ask any developer to start from near zero and produce a title
> > (of any sort) I'm sure they can get you a racing game pretty quick,
> > but it takes a lot longer to create an accurate simulation. I would
> > have thought more of you would have the knowledge and experience to
> > realise that things sometimes take time.
> > To even question whether the product is an "if" is just silly.
> LOL - C'mon..... "starting from near zero" ????
> iRacing is NR2003+
> There was no starting from zero. Hell, if they were half as smart as
> expected....
> they would take NR2003, then decompile (not that it's necessary) rFactor and
> make a combination of the two. Seems to me that iRacing has spent all their
> time and money on "GPS'ing the proposed tracks" ;) Anyway... it's
> mostly forgotten from my point of view.
> :)
> I'm sure it will be a fine sim when it arrives but those of us that
> have registered on the site for updates and are serious about
> (possibly) becoming part of this need more frequent updates, even if
> they are minor ones. Posting here is nice, but if someone has signed
> up and given you the info called for then they should get more than
> one update every few months just to keep the interest going and the
> word out IMHO.
> Me, I live 45 minutes from Limerock and run there about 15-20 times
> per year. Sure would have been nice to know about iRacing's presence
> there ahead of time...
> Still looking forward to the sim.
> Gary P.
> >> Are they doing anything at this point other than spending John Henry's
> >> money on real life racing? :)
> >Yes we are, thanks. :)
The last update mentioned that the Pontiac Solstice would be in the
sim. But yes I agree that most updates are not concentrated solely on
the sim, I wasn't aware iRacing had an agreement with you on what had
to be mentioned in updates.
> The last update mentioned that the Pontiac Solstice would be in the
> sim. But yes I agree that most updates are not concentrated solely on
> the sim, I wasn't aware iRacing had an agreement with you on what had
> to be mentioned in updates.
Excuse me? I wasn't even trying. The simple fact is that if iRacing is
spending it's time marketing to the real racing world right now, what
does that matter? We all know that simracers will try any sim said to
be decent enough (people keep trying the same arcade games, time after
time, hoping for improvement), but a lot of real racers and teams need
a lot of persuasion to see racing sims as anything more than games.
All I was looking for was some sort of update on the status of the SIM side
of the business but apparently that is asking too much. Great attitude BTW.
>> >> Don't you mean " if" it gets here?
>> >> Sheese, I mean how long have they been talking about this now?
>> >> --
>> >> Don
>> > About as long as most developers do.
>> > I recently started playing a space game (another genre I like other
>> > than racing simulations) that was 6 years in the making - and the
>> > developers still plan to update it over the next few years.
>> > If you ask any developer to start from near zero and produce a title
>> > (of any sort) I'm sure they can get you a racing game pretty quick,
>> > but it takes a lot longer to create an accurate simulation. I would
>> > have thought more of you would have the knowledge and experience to
>> > realise that things sometimes take time.
>> > To even question whether the product is an "if" is just silly.
>> LOL - C'mon..... "starting from near zero" ????
>> iRacing is NR2003+
>> There was no starting from zero. Hell, if they were half as smart as
>> expected....
>> they would take NR2003, then decompile (not that it's necessary) rFactor
>> and
>> make a combination of the two. Seems to me that iRacing has spent all
>> their
>> time and money on "GPS'ing the proposed tracks" ;) Anyway... it's
>> mostly forgotten from my point of view.
>> :)
> That was kind of a silly post, too. :-)
"09. Is this a mod of NASCAR Racing: 2003 Season?
No. We used the NR2003 code as a starting point, taking advantage of its
greatest strengths, such as the net code, which allows full fields of
drivers to race online in real time, and the replay system, which enables
drivers to review their on-track performance. But every major section of the
code has substantially improved for the iRacing.com simulation, and large
portions are all new."
Seems to me that implies that NR2003 code was the starting point is some
form at least and iRacing is not a clean slate starting codebase.
GP
>> I'm sure it will be a fine sim when it arrives but those of us that
>> have registered on the site for updates and are serious about
>> (possibly) becoming part of this need more frequent updates, even if
>> they are minor ones. Posting here is nice, but if someone has signed
>> up and given you the info called for then they should get more than
>> one update every few months just to keep the interest going and the
>> word out IMHO.
>> Me, I live 45 minutes from Limerock and run there about 15-20 times
>> per year. Sure would have been nice to know about iRacing's presence
>> there ahead of time...
>> Still looking forward to the sim.
>> Gary P.
>I understand that it might be hard to see why you weren't added to the
>current testers Gary. I used to be the one taking those emails (I'm
>not anymore), but I do remember sending you an email saying you'd been
>added to the waiting list (which is huge) only. If you haven't been
>called upon yet, it's not actually that surprising.
Let's quote from my own post: "marketing to the real racing world
right now"... Do you read "right now" or not? I didn't confirm a damn
thing like you suggest and it's extremely rude of you to suggest as
such.
A lot of people here seem perfectly able to answer their own questions
even if they're wrong. If you thought you were lacking information you
found a great way to kick the guy who WAS trying to help you get it.
Tim.
>> >> Don't you mean " if" it gets here?
>> >> Sheese, I mean how long have they been talking about this now?
>> >> --
>> >> Don
>> > About as long as most developers do.
>> > I recently started playing a space game (another genre I like other
>> > than racing simulations) that was 6 years in the making - and the
>> > developers still plan to update it over the next few years.
>> > If you ask any developer to start from near zero and produce a title
>> > (of any sort) I'm sure they can get you a racing game pretty quick,
>> > but it takes a lot longer to create an accurate simulation. I would
>> > have thought more of you would have the knowledge and experience to
>> > realise that things sometimes take time.
>> > To even question whether the product is an "if" is just silly.
>> LOL - C'mon..... "starting from near zero" ????
>> iRacing is NR2003+
>> There was no starting from zero. Hell, if they were half as smart as
>> expected....
>> they would take NR2003, then decompile (not that it's necessary) rFactor
>> and
>> make a combination of the two. Seems to me that iRacing has spent all
>> their
>> time and money on "GPS'ing the proposed tracks" ;) Anyway... it's
>> mostly forgotten from my point of view.
>> :)
> That was kind of a silly post, too. :-)
It doesn't seem as silly as someone posting what you posted!! A "statement"
of dispute with ZERO facts or even theory to back up your "statement".
I've read that iRacing is USING NR2003 code as their base. If you know
different, I'm sure we would all be interested in hearing.
Otherwise --- you just qualitfy as a "fan-boi"
;)
Obviously that's all then. c ya.
Tim.
