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Have you tried Replay Analyzer?

I found at Rouen that I was losing most of my time vs the benchmark on
the downhill run which sort of surprised me (considering that was the
opposite of my experience at Spa and elsewhere) and gave me an idea of
what I needed to work on.  I'm still not as fast as I should be there,
and have trouble running sub-2 with any consistency, but just having
an idea where you're gaining/losing ground on the benchmark would be a
good start.  I always find I either overdrive or underdrive the
downhill bit at the beginning to the hairpin but who knows, maybe
you're losing time on the uphill part.  Would be worth looking at.

Jason

Yes, I have.  Well, not against the benchmark, but against hotlaps.  At Rouen,
I'm slower *everywhere*.  I've found that almost without exception, I turn-in
too early at every turn.  If I *try* to delay the turn-in, I'm off the outside
of the track.  It's a perception issue there, but I don't know how to fix it.
As far as the downhill run to the hairpin, I *must* get all my braking done
before the preceding left-hand turn.  If I'm on the brakes at all in the turn,
I'll crash.  If I wait until after the left-hander, I can't stop in time.  So I
brake before the turn, and coast up to the hairpin.  That's the only way I can
consistently(at least 80% of the time) get through there without crashing.

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Don McCorkle

Problem 1.  Use whatever your goal is as the reference lap.  If you're
trying to break 2, then use the replay that came with GPL.  Looking at
someone significantly faster than you is just basically going to show
that you're slower everywhere.

See above. =)

I always brake before the left, coast a bit, then brake for the
hairpin, so there's probably somewhere else you could gain time.
Seriously, load the benchmark replay into RA and have a go.

Also, when I meant the downhill part, I actually meant further up the
hill.  My biggest problem at Rouen isn't the hairpin or the uphill
sections, it's that first right/left/right complex which I always seem
to either slow down way too much for or take too fast/at the wrong
angle and totally blow the line/turn and end up in the grass.

Of course, you could be fine there.  I can't emphasize enough how much
better it is to look at the benchmark replays in RA than the alien
laps, at least when you're at the skill level we're at (hell, I'm
what, 2 seconds faster than you overall?).

Jason

There you go all negative again. I set a new Honda PB for Rouen in the race
last Sunday (2m01.26s). I wasn't thinking about laptime, I wasn't even
thinking about going fast. I was just keeping up the pressure on Asgeir so
he couldn't slacken off to save his car. As it turned out, he ran out of
fuel and I moved up another spot. <g>

Have you ever been "in the groove" Eldred? -The groove is a wonderfull
thing. Effortless speed. Or are you afraid to go there?

Jan.
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Jason

Actually, that was a fairly serious question. I suddenly realised I've never
heard Eldred talking about feeling completely "on it". About just "being
there", if you know what I mean.

So how about it EP... ever felt like the lord of creation in the***pit?

Jan.
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Few and far between.  Two, maybe three times.  I really don't know why it's so
rare in this game for me.  Maybe *I* just don't 'get it' like Tim, but I keep
fighting it...

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Scared of what - crashing a virtual car in a game?

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Denying being scared but still skirting the bedwetting issue eh Eldred?

<G>

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I said *consistently*.  I can do it your way, but I only make it about 1 out of
every 10 tries. :-)  Part of the problem is I can't judge my speed very well
between the lefthander and the hairpin.  Either I brake too much, and coast to
it(or worse, have to hit the gas and brake again), or I don't slow down enough,
and plow into the tires on the outside of the turn.

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That's what happens to me when I try to go faster.  I could probably run 2:05's
all day without breaking a sweat, though.

I dunno - I've never compared our times.  My reasoning for looking at the
hotlaps is this.  Comparing to a hotlap, I can see how much faster someone can
go in a given turn.  I might not be able to DO it, but it might get me closer.
Comparing to a lap that's maybe a second faster, I can't see the difference.
So, I don't know what to do differently.

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