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N3 vs DTR

John Bodi

N3 vs DTR

by John Bodi » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Just out of curiousity, how many of you diehard NASCAR fans are e***d
about the upcoming release of Dirt Track Racing?  It's going to be hitting
the shelves at about the same time as NASCAR 3, and I can guarantee you that
as an open-wheel fan and a dirt track fan, I will be buying DTR before I
plunk down money for N3.  Then again, I'm not a real NASCAR fan, and I
REALLY love dirt-track action.  I know a lot of you out there ARE real
NASCAR fans, and I know a lot of NASCAR fans also dirt fans, so I was
wondering if DTR is as eagerly-anticipated as NASCAR 3.

I know that until we see the goods and read the reviews, the jury may be out
on Ratbag's ability to produce a satisfying sim -- Papy always gives us
solid, satisfying sims, while Ratbag's Powerslide title was definitely more
of an arcade racer.  And, until we see the reviews and hear the reports, our
knowledge of DTR is limited to the company's "party line" on the game's
overall goodness, plus a few screenshots -- and NASCAR Revulsion taught us
that eye-candy ain't all it's cracked up to be -- but for me, DTR is
currently the #1 most anticipated sim of 1999 (the late, lamented Trans Am
Racing previously held this spot, but that is not to be).

So, with NASCAR 3 coming out soon (and sure to be greeted with much hoopla),
is anybody besides me all worked up over the impending release of Dirt Track
Racing, or is it in danger of getting lost in the shuffle?

-- John Bodin
    Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine
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ymenar

N3 vs DTR

by ymenar » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00


DTR is set to be released in less than a month ?

Im awaiting for it, but the bar is high-raised by SODA: Off-Road in terms of
realism and physics of the game engine.  Whatever it will be in graphics, I
personally don't care, I want to see how depth the game engine is :)

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
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John Bodi

N3 vs DTR

by John Bodi » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00



>> Just out of curiousity, how many of you diehard NASCAR fans are e***d
>> about the upcoming release of Dirt Track Racing?  It's going to be
hitting
>> the shelves at about the same time as NASCAR 3

>DTR is set to be released in less than a month ?

I think it's due out in October -- maybe the end of October, perhaps, but
it's coming soon.  It's supposed to be entering final beta testing this
coming week, which I think means they're just wringing out a few last
details before going gold.

-- JB

Tracey Mille

N3 vs DTR

by Tracey Mille » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00


> Just out of curiousity, how many of you diehard NASCAR fans are
e***d
> about the upcoming release of Dirt Track Racing?

I'm a NASCAR fan, a dirt track fan, and an open wheel fan. About the
only form of motor racing I don't enjoy watching is motorcycles. But
the Sim that I am MOST e***d about right now is AMA Superbike. The
reason is because I have very little interest in racing imaginary
computer opponents, and Motorsims appears to be the only company right
now that is dedicated to multiplayer racing. The others seem to think
of multiplayer as an after thought. "Oh yeah, it'll work with enough
bandwidth, good luck."

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Chris

N3 vs DTR

by Chris » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I disagree with that.  GPL was designed as a multiplayer game.  N3 has had
extensive work on its multiplayer issues, etc.  Perhaps some of these
developers are NOT going full-bore on a fully dedicated system ala TEN, but
that isn't the end all be all of online racing or *** either.

it'll work with enough

Phillip Malphrus, Jr

N3 vs DTR

by Phillip Malphrus, Jr » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I'm very e***d about DTR groeing up going to the track every week but it
will not make its way on to my hard drive before N3 unless it is released b4
N3.
Phillip
Tracey Mille

N3 vs DTR

by Tracey Mille » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter

 Well Chris, if that was their "design", to turn us all loose on the
internet trying to find each other via ICQ, then they need to hire some
new "designers". LOL!

Until Allison Hine and the VROC gang came around, I used to log on to
TEN to find people to race GPL. Was than part of their big plan too?

Giving a sim the ability to be ran on the net is not all there is to
"designing" a multiplayer framework. GPL is more than a year old yet
there are no online tournaments or ranking systems other than user ran
leagues. There is more incentive to play bingo on Pogo.com than there
is to compete in GPL.

Sierra dropped the ball, but it looks like Motorsims has picked it up
and is running with it.

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The Mocke

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by The Mocke » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I'm going to buy whichever comes out first, to be honest. But I have to say
that I am looking forward to DTR more than N3. I have seen basically what N3
has to offer, so it is somewhat of a known commodity. N legends seems more
interesting to me than N3. But I will have them all.... oh yes.. I shall
have them

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John Bodi

N3 vs DTR

by John Bodi » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00



>> Just out of curiousity, how many of you diehard NASCAR fans are
>e***d
>> about the upcoming release of Dirt Track Racing?

>I'm a NASCAR fan, a dirt track fan, and an open wheel fan. About the
>only form of motor racing I don't enjoy watching is motorcycles. But
>the Sim that I am MOST e***d about right now is AMA Superbike. The
>reason is because I have very little interest in racing imaginary
>computer opponents, and Motorsims appears to be the only company right
>now that is dedicated to multiplayer racing. The others seem to think
>of multiplayer as an after thought. "Oh yeah, it'll work with enough
>bandwidth, good luck."

From what I've heard, you're going to be pleasantly surprised with Dirt
Track Racing -- Ratbag's first title, Powerslide, works VERY nicely in
multiplayer mode over the Internet, and from the reports I've read, Ratbag
has made major improvements in this area with the Dirt Track Racing game.  I
think these folks understand the importance of on-line racing, and they're
making DTR with on-line *** in mind.  I think the preview on the IGN-PC
site (http://www.racesimcentral.net/) indicated that there might even be
a "spectator" mode, which will allow non-participants to watch races in
progress, similar to watching a deathmatch in Quake (this might have been
mentioned on one of the other Aussie sites -- can't remember for sure) .  I
could be wrong about this last part, but I think I remember seeing it
someplace.   If they're thinking along these lines, you know they've got
Internet *** on the mind.

-- JB

Tracey Mille

N3 vs DTR

by Tracey Mille » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>I think the preview on the IGN-PC
> site (http://pc.ign.com/news/10037.html) indicated that there might
>even be a "spectator" mode, which will allow non-participants to watch
>races in progress,

Now THAT would be AWESOME!

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Georg

N3 vs DTR

by Georg » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

GPL was very POORLY designed then, GPL sucks at multiplier, I tried it a
couple of times and I couldn't stop laughing at how pathetic  it was online,
what a joke!

Bill Bollinge

N3 vs DTR

by Bill Bollinge » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Maybe he should have changed what he said from "multiplayer" game to massive
"multiplayer" game.  GPL was NOT designed with "multiplayer" as a primary
objective.  I have YET to see a better online racing service or game than
TEN/NROS btw.

Bill / Amish on TEN


Andrew MacPhers

N3 vs DTR

by Andrew MacPhers » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

<fx: watches hook sink slowly into the deep, still water underneath the
trees>

Andrew McP... fresh from a problem-free 17 lapper at WG

David Er

N3 vs DTR

by David Er » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Yup you can hear the boat motor a mile away. Not only that but the worm is
long dead.:)

Pickerel Dave


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