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However I'm thinking that after this Sunday's race that someone in the
NASCAR brass must be racing online. After that call with Matt K. and Jeff G.
I'm betting someone got their league rules mixed up the real ones. If you
have not seen the race and will catch a tape delay you may want to stop
reading now. For those of you did watch WET was with this no passing the
leader crap?  As far as I know the rule is race back to the line. Matt
slowed up to let his Roush teammates get their laps back, but Jeff wasn't
going for it. I am a Roush Racing fan so I'm glad my guys got their laps
back, but I honestly think that was a BS call.

It so reminded me of one of my most frustrating online races. Flashpoint did
have a rule of no racing back to the line on a yellow flag. I forget what
track it was at, but it seemed there was a yellow about ever 5 laps. I was
racing a guy for a top five spot, but every time I'd get along side him and
have the line going into the next corner when a darn yellow would come out
and by league rules I would have to fall back in line behind him. That
happened for four or five times in a row.

So I'm curious what you guys think a) of the call made by NASCAR and b)
racing back to the flag online.

My take on it

a) It was a silly call made by NASCAR. I will give them credit for giving
the other cars their lap back. If the would have just put Jeff in front of
Matt without giving the others their laps back would have just been silly.
Of course that would be nothing new for NASCAR lol

b) While I understand not racing back to the line I do feel that if you made
a pass that lap it should stand, and if your attempting a clean pass when
the yellow flies you should be able to finish it. How does RASCAR handle it?

MadDAWG

Mike

As far as I know, the NASCAR rule is to race back.  I thought the call
was total BS, but then one of the announcers said that this has been
superceded lately by instructions given at the drivers meetings.  If
that's true, they need to go ahead and change the rule.

Personally, I wish NASCAR would quit sticking its nose in every corner
and just let them race.

2c,
Gerald

b) Online, I think you should do whatever you think the safest course
of action is.  Even if it means risking a BF.  At least now you have a
chance for it to be cleared by sympathetic race officials.  Yellow
means there is already a problem on at least one part of the track.
With the generally deficient spotter AI, I think it is probably safest
just to back off a slight bit, stop actively racing, and concentrate
on picking up the pacecar safely.  Sometimes you need to floor it to
get by trouble, and sometimes you might decide that this will be your
best and only shot of getting by a particularly tough opponent,
particularly late in the race.  But in general, I am not a fan of
racing back (online), as it adds risk to an already risky situation.
Not everyone agrees, which is what makes life interesting.

cheers,
Gerald

I would agree that lappers should just hold line, I used to move high and
still seemed to get creamed by a leader trying to perform ill timed slide
jobs thinking that your supposed to lift as well. I hold my line, I drive
where I am, the leaders must realize that you do have to turn right
sometimes even when turning left all day.

I wish we could go back to the days when Ford v. Chevy actually meant
something.  When the Winston Million was actually an unheard-of amount
of money.  When aero meant you had a goofy-looking rear window glass,
but one that came on an actual production model!  And no goddamn
restrictor plates!  And you could drive an Oldsmobile!

I mean, where in the heck is NASCAR Legends 2, ca. 1985?  Where!??

Sigh.  I will never rest. ;)

Gerald

Now that would be a must have with todays graphic and physic engines.

MadDAWG

Oh man...  me want!  Me want!  Me want!  :)

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