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Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

David Lyde

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by David Lyde » Sun, 21 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Don't Indycars have a speed regulating governor in the car, where the
driver would hold down a button and his speed would be capped at 80 mph?
Can't this be added in the patch for IRC2?  I have been black flagged for
hitting 81 mph for a fraction of a second.  Something like a governor
button would really help.
Jason A. Coo

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Jason A. Coo » Sun, 21 Apr 1996 04:00:00


> Don't Indycars have a speed regulating governor in the car, where the
> driver would hold down a button and his speed would be capped at 80 mph?
> Can't this be added in the patch for IRC2?  I have been black flagged for
> hitting 81 mph for a fraction of a second.  Something like a governor
> button would really help.

Further to this...

During the race at Long Beach I heard one of the ABC commentators
mention that there was a 5 mph grace zone.  One of the drivers
went 67 in the pit when the limit was 60, and was hit with a
penalty, whereas they said if had done 65, the officials would
have given him a bly.

Just a random output
JAC

Michael E. Carv

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Michael E. Carv » Sun, 21 Apr 1996 04:00:00

: Don't Indycars have a speed regulating governor in the car, where the
: driver would hold down a button and his speed would be capped at 80 mph?
: Can't this be added in the patch for IRC2?  I have been black flagged for
: hitting 81 mph for a fraction of a second.  Something like a governor
: button would really help.

Reach up to your dashboard (read keyboard) and flick the regulator on
(read ALT/B).  Soon as you clear the pit exit, your car will begin to
accelerate.  Flick off the regulator (read ALT/B) and go racing.

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Remco Moe

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Remco Moe » Sun, 21 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>Don't Indycars have a speed regulating governor in the car, where the
>driver would hold down a button and his speed would be capped at 80 mph?
>Can't this be added in the patch for IRC2?  I have been black flagged for
>hitting 81 mph for a fraction of a second.  Something like a governor
>button would really help.

Rick Genter already stated the possibility of Alt - B (Auto Brake)
This will do the trick

Remco
<<Ring ... Ring ...  Allo? Tuut ... Tuut .. Tuut ...>>

Jo

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Jo » Sun, 21 Apr 1996 04:00:00


Ya, I heard that too. A simple solution in ICR2 would be to set it up
so you can't be over 80 for more than 2 (or 1, if you like) seconds in
a speeding incident. That would be the equivelent to having a 5 MPH
boundary zone, and would add a little give-and-take to the process of
getting in/out of the pits. Of course, you could also at the same time
make it so anyone going over 85 would be black flagged immediately.
Putting both of these in would make it very realistic, I think.

Nothing sucks worse than to be coming up to speed and then hitting 81
for a 1/4 of a second, and it is all over. Adding this above mentioned
feature would make leaving the pits a little more about the driving
and not about watching the damn speedometer.

Gregory Fu

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Gregory Fu » Mon, 22 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>> Don't Indycars have a speed regulating governor in the car, where the
>> driver would hold down a button and his speed would be capped at 80 mph?
>> Can't this be added in the patch for IRC2?  I have been black flagged for
>> hitting 81 mph for a fraction of a second.  Something like a governor
>> button would really help.

If you FOLLOW this newsgroup, check back to Josh Beaulieu's response to the
same question a few days ago.

Gregory Fung

Vancouver, B.C., Canada

IICC3 Ground Effects/Rebel Alliance Lola-Ford-Firestone

David Spar

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by David Spar » Tue, 23 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>Don't Indycars have a speed regulating governor in the car, where the
>driver would hold down a button and his speed would be capped at 80 mph?
>Can't this be added in the patch for IRC2?  I have been black flagged for
>hitting 81 mph for a fraction of a second.  Something like a governor
>button would really help.

In the Long Beach broadcast on ABC, Danny Sullivan mentioned that the
officials don't penalize a driver unless he's going at least 5 mph over pit
speed. Also, I'm pretty sure that it's based on average speed rather than
instantaneous speed. It would be nice if Papyrus allowed us just a little
more leeway on the pit speed.

Dave

Jo

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Jo » Wed, 24 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>In the Long Beach broadcast on ABC, Danny Sullivan mentioned that the
>officials don't penalize a driver unless he's going at least 5 mph over pit
>speed. Also, I'm pretty sure that it's based on average speed rather than
>instantaneous speed. It would be nice if Papyrus allowed us just a little
>more leeway on the pit speed.

My idea was to make the program only flag you if you maintain over 80
(or is it 70? I forget) for a full second stretch; seems easy to build
in, and would make the whole pit thing more interesting, and
apparently (by Danny Sullivan's comment) more realistic. Average speed
would be good too, but that is hard to get a grasp on while driving-
what happens to the running average when you are actually pitted
(speed 0), for example- sort of scwrews up the equation.
Mike Manthe

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Mike Manthe » Wed, 24 Apr 1996 04:00:00

===========================================
It's all in your perspective....

In the last "real" Long Beach race, they lowered the pit speed limit, (I
forgot what it was lowered to...)  so the speed limit is not a
constant..

So, why not just call the pit speed limit... say.... 75 MPH?
That will give you the 5 MPH "buffer" you're looking for!

It's also not based on average speed, as was suggested.   A speed limit
in the pits is a speed limit.  ..just as a highway speed limit is a
limit. You couldn't get out of a speeding ticket by explaining that your
average speed was actually only 65 MPH....  :-(      I wish!

To ask that Papyrus write a patch to fix something that's not broke.....
well, it's a little much to ask.   It's a great simulator.   Use it for
what it does, find a work-around for what doesn't, and above all, play!

** To all - I'm not trying to pick on those I just replied to :-)  **
Just an observation, but it seems too many people buy a program before
they know if it will suit their needs, then claim "foul" when they find
something they don't like.    This applies to much more than just games.
 Let the same caution you use buying a used car apply to software.  If
it's not going to work for you, don't buy it.

Lighten up, my fellow gamers.  This is supposed to be fun!

Have fun
Be flexible
Mike

Chris Lindro

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Chris Lindro » Thu, 25 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>: Don't Indycars have a speed regulating governor in the car, where the
>: driver would hold down a button and his speed would be capped at 80 mph?
>: Can't this be added in the patch for IRC2?  I have been black flagged for
>: hitting 81 mph for a fraction of a second.  Something like a governor
>: button would really help.
>Reach up to your dashboard (read keyboard) and flick the regulator on
>(read ALT/B).  Soon as you clear the pit exit, your car will begin to
>accelerate.  Flick off the regulator (read ALT/B) and go racing.

Try this at Michigan and the car gets up to 81mph for a fraction of a
second before dropping to 80. Still gives a black flag.

Chris

>--
>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Wade Tschi

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Wade Tschi » Thu, 25 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Mike,
You have just been nominated as THE voice of "The Silent Majority". Thank You.
I'm sure you'll serve your Tenure well.

Happy Lappin'
Wade Tschida

#49 DB Motorsports

David Spar

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by David Spar » Fri, 26 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>It's also not based on average speed, as was suggested.   A speed limit
>in the pits is a speed limit.  ..just as a highway speed limit is a
>limit. You couldn't get out of a speeding ticket by explaining that your
>average speed was actually only 65 MPH....  :-(      I wish!

No cop would ever write a ticket for going 1 mph over the speed limit, even
for a radar ticket. It's not reasonable to expect a speedometer to be that
accurate.

As far as pit speed limit, it really depends on the race. I don't know CART
rules, but in NASCAR, there are some tracks where it is based on average
speed. There are white lines on the pit lane, and the scorer simply clocks
the amount of time it takes to get from the first white line in front of
your pit to the last line on pit road.

Does anyone one know how CART enforces the rules? Do they use a radar gun?

Dave

an..

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by an.. » Fri, 26 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Well, them using a stopwatch and timing cars would be the same thing
as using a radar gun. Beings Winston Cup cars don't have speedometers
the go by RPM to guage their speed on pit road. Go to any race and a
some  point <usually the last "Happy Hour"> the pace car will lead the

pack down Pit road at the regulated speed and each driver will set
his/her tachometer accordingly. I have watched Winston Cup racing for
over 10 yrs. and since they <NASCAR> cracked down on pit road speeds
I've never herd of them using "average speed". I unfortunatly don't
recall the exact track last season, but ask Kyle Petty about Pit road
speed. They called him back in at least 4 times in a ROW! for
exceeding Pit road speed. Looked like he was ok to me on the TV
so I think that would pretty much wipe out any doubt on the way the
NASCAR officials handle it.

Take it Easy.
  Andy  A

Mike Manthe

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by Mike Manthe » Fri, 26 Apr 1996 04:00:00


> Mike,
> You have just been nominated as THE voice of "The Silent Majority". Thank You.
> I'm sure you'll serve your Tenure well.

> Happy Lappin'
> Wade Tschida

====================

Gee.... uh.... thanks.... I think.                                                  
I try to keep quiet, but sometimes...                                                

Mike    (still one lap down.)  :-)

David Spar

Speeding in the pits in IRC2 - Message for Rick Genter

by David Spar » Sat, 27 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>Well, them using a stopwatch and timing cars would be the same thing
>as using a radar gun. Beings Winston Cup cars don't have speedometers
>the go by RPM to guage their speed on pit road. Go to any race and a
>some  point <usually the last "Happy Hour"> the pace car will lead the

Sorry, a radar gun, for all practical purposes gives you instantaneous
speed. It is NOT the average speed in the pits.

Dave


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