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by **Joe6** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

>I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.

Some games are worth upgrading for. (The last time I upgraded my CPU
was when GPL came out.)

Joe McGinn
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Radical Entertainment

by **3_4_m** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

Yeah Dave, read between the lines:
"With an entirely new, ground breaking physics engine"

-<+>- Tim...read between the lines...they are NOT going to say they
-<+>-have a two year old engine...:)
-<+>-Yes it IS a version of the GPL engine...
-<+>-dave henrie
-<+>-
-<+>->
-<+>-> Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated engine maybe,
-<+>-> to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like the
-<+>-> gpl-engine to me.
-<+>-> Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics department.
-<+>-> Can't wait!
-<+>->
-<+>-> > The new hardware-only 32-bit graphics engine allows for real-time
-<+>-> reflection
-<+>-> > maps and shadows, higher frame rate, and smooth slow-motion replay. New 3D
-<+>-> > AI modeling allows for a formidable field of realistic competitors.

by **Dave Henri** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

I would guess the meaning to be...
'an entirely new "TO NASCAR" ground breaking physics engine'
this isn't a rewrite of N99 it isn't an entirely new system...it's
gpl converted and tweek and/or subtracted from to work with a Winston
Cup car format. It won't be '67 lotus with fenders...the entire number
package that makes up the car and track physics will have been changed
to meet the Nascar feel.
dave henrie

> Yeah Dave, read between the lines:
> "With an entirely new, ground breaking physics engine"

> -<+>- Tim...read between the lines...they are NOT going to say they
> -<+>-have a two year old engine...:)
> -<+>-Yes it IS a version of the GPL engine...
> -<+>-dave henrie
> -<+>-

> -<+>->
> -<+>-> Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated engine maybe,
> -<+>-> to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like the
> -<+>-> gpl-engine to me.
> -<+>-> Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics department.
> -<+>-> Can't wait!
> -<+>->
> -<+>-> > The new hardware-only 32-bit graphics engine allows for real-time
> -<+>-> reflection
> -<+>-> > maps and shadows, higher frame rate, and smooth slow-motion replay. New 3D
> -<+>-> > AI modeling allows for a formidable field of realistic competitors.

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

I'd bet, D3D only. It makes sense because all the cards support it. It also
makes sense because it'll***us up if we were planning a Voodoo 5500
purchase. Isn't that the way it works? So, for the best D3D speeds, we'll
need a geforce2 gts. Even if, big if, the Voodoo5500's glide speed is better
than the new geforce's D3D speed, the 5500 will most likely be slower in
D3D. But wait, the game won't be out for 6 months, so these new cards will
be old technology by then.

--

Slot
www.slottweak.com
Tweaks & Reviews

> Never mind CPU, what about graphic accelerator support? Glide, D3D,
Open-GL
> or all of the above?

> Sal V.

> > On Wed, 03 May 2000 13:36:20 -0700, Chris Bloom

> > >I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.
> > >I'm sure though that Papyrus realise they can't go alienating
> > >(the spelling is surely wrong?) their main support base, and
> > >will make sure it is playable on a wide range of systems.

> > >I hope so anyway, coz my CPU upgrade is still a while off.

> > >Chris

> > Fear of too-high system specs is why they kept using that old,
> > dried-up engine for N3 instead of something with true 3D capabilities.

> > Talk about alienation... that alienated me.
> > It felt bogus after playing Sports Car GT, of all things.

> > Tim

by **Jan Verschuere** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

Too right Mike, you had a fight and a half on your hands last Sunday. I bet
our Norwegian friend sweated bucketts with you snapping at his heels for the
better part of 20 laps.

Jan.
=---

by **Ian** » Sat, 06 May 2000 04:00:00

You can give me good physics over fancy graphics anyday.
BTW I think the graphics in GPL are fine, I can see which way the road is
going and where the other cars are what else do I need ? ;)

--
Ian Parker
==

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 06 May 2000 04:00:00

but...doncha wanna see the fan in turn 3 take off her top?
dave henrie

> You can give me good physics over fancy graphics anyday.
> BTW I think the graphics in GPL are fine, I can see which way the road is
> going and where the other cars are what else do I need ? ;)

> --
> Ian Parker
> ==

> > A NEW game with the GPL engine ????

> > What kind of company is this ?

> > Hey guys, this is the year 2000, I know GPL is a great game but did you
> > check the graphics on the latest games ?

> > The handling is quite okay on rally masters too....

> > Anyway, GPL rules....

by **Ian** » Sat, 06 May 2000 04:00:00

Well as you put it like that....... <G>

--
Ian Parker

==

> but...doncha wanna see the fan in turn 3 take off her top?
> dave henrie

> > You can give me good physics over fancy graphics anyday.
> > BTW I think the graphics in GPL are fine, I can see which way the road
is
> > going and where the other cars are what else do I need ? ;)

> > --
> > Ian Parker

by **amos-opu** » Sun, 07 May 2000 04:00:00

isn't that what he is talking about.....good physics?

Sudesh

> but...doncha wanna see the fan in turn 3 take off her top?
> dave henrie

> > You can give me good physics over fancy graphics anyday.
> > BTW I think the graphics in GPL are fine, I can see which way the road is
> > going and where the other cars are what else do I need ? ;)

> > --
> > Ian Parker
> > ==

> > > A NEW game with the GPL engine ????

> > > What kind of company is this ?

> > > Hey guys, this is the year 2000, I know GPL is a great game but did you
> > > check the graphics on the latest games ?

> > > The handling is quite okay on rally masters too....

> > > Anyway, GPL rules....

by **abritto** » Sun, 07 May 2000 04:00:00

K7-800 Athalon = $314
Asus K7V m/b = $155
PC133 128mb = $89
WD 10gb 7200 = $115

Total Upgrade = $673

optional

GeForce DDR = $211
or
Voodoo 3500 = $155

go big time

GeForce2 or Voodoo5 = $300+

All prices from www.pricewatch.com

My point to this post is that it is pretty reasonable to upgrade your system
these days without having to dump $2500 each time you do it.

A game like N4 will require a lot of horsepower but you do not necessarily have
to take out a second mortgage to do it.

Andrew B.

by **Colin Harri** » Sun, 07 May 2000 04:00:00

all proportional to your income, of course....personally, $673 is a shitload
of money, and can't simply stump up at the drop of a hat.

--

Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL
Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league
http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm
ICQ 25485061

by **Eldre** » Mon, 08 May 2000 04:00:00

>isn't that what he is talking about.....good physics?

>Sudesh

>> but...doncha wanna see the fan in turn 3 take off her top?
>> dave henrie

>> > You can give me good physics over fancy graphics anyday.
>> > BTW I think the graphics in GPL are fine, I can see which way the road is
>> > going and where the other cars are what else do I need ? ;)

Only if they *jiggle*... :)

Eldred
--
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by **Larr** » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

As Intel has taught us well over the last 6 months, "Announcing to
slow down people from purchasing Athlons" is much different than
"Shipping".

This whole Willy thing has a FUD-Factor of 10.

-Larry

> The good news is...AMD has scared Intel so much lately that
>Intel is bringing out it's 1.5 ghz chip way sooner than planned. The
>new chip, Willamette, should be "STARTING" at 1.5ghz and be scalable up
>from that point...This will bring down the prices on PIII 800's and AMD
>will follow suit with lower prices on Athlons..
>dave henrie

>> They waited long enough. By November my guess is 1Ghz will be $1500. Start
>> saving...

>> --David

>> > I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.
>> > I'm sure though that Papyrus realise they can't go alienating
>> > (the spelling is surely wrong?) their main support base, and
>> > will make sure it is playable on a wide range of systems.

>> > I hope so anyway, coz my CPU upgrade is still a while off.

>> > Chris

>> > >Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated
>> > engine maybe,
>> > >to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like
>> > the
>> > >gpl-engine to me.
>> > >Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics
>> > department.
>> > >Can't wait!

>> > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network
>> *
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by **Larr** » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

Now for the truly amazing fact.

ALL of that adds up to less than one single 128MB RDRAM RAMBUSt memory
module.

Yeah, Intel. Show me the way :)

-Larry

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