rec.autos.simulators

by **Napoleon BlownApar** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Sierra just dropped this PR in our news box that announces Nascar Racing 4.
The whole PR is quite large so I'll just smack up the good parts below:

"With an entirely new, ground breaking physics engine, NASCAR(r) Racing 4
offers everyone a chance to climb into a NASCAR(r) Winston Cup car with
their PC and enjoy a riveting experience unmatched by any other driving
sim," said Jim Veevaert, vice-president of marketing for Sierra Studios.
"Papyrus Founder, Dave Kaemmer, introduces the novice to the fun and
e***ment of racing, but steeps the expert in all the subtleties and
strategies of the NASCAR(r) racing experience, learning what the drivers
know."

NASCAR(r) Racing 4 features the drivers and teams from the 2000 NASCAR(r)
Winston Cup and NASCAR(r) Busch Series, Grand National Division. NASCAR(r)
Racing 4 showcases a revolutionary new 3D physics model that adds realism to
the reactions of the cars - with body rolls, the ability to become airborne,
and tires that spin and lock up. The cars also feature a virtual 3D***pit
that allows you to look left and right, has dynamic arm and steering wheel
movement - enhancing the immersive quality of the game. To further improve
the ease of the experience, the interactive user interface includes pop-up
help for car setup and configuration options. Other driver aids include a
novice mode with steering and stability control, traction control to limit
wheel spin, and antilock brakes.

The new hardware-only 32-bit graphics engine allows for real-time reflection
maps and shadows, higher frame rate, and smooth slow-motion replay. New 3D
AI modeling allows for a formidable field of realistic competitors.

"NASCAR(r) Racing 4 allows up to 32 drivers to race online with robust LAN
and Internet support, which is up to eight times the number of players other
racing sims can support," said Scott Stutsman, producer at Papyrus. "These
multiplayer capabilities, our revolutionary 3D physics model and new 32 bit
graphics engine are just some of the features that exemplify how Papyrus
continues to raise the bar for our competitors."

--
Eric Hansen

If you like Nuevo Flamenco then visit my site:
www.nuevoflamenco.com

by **Tim Vanhe** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated engine maybe,
to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like the
gpl-engine to me.
Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics department.
Can't wait!

by **ymenar** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Hmmm... ??

Nascar Racing 4 is based on the new Papyrus game engine.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Tim...read between the lines...they are NOT going to say they
have a two year old engine...:)
Yes it IS a version of the GPL engine...
dave henrie

> Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated engine maybe,
> to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like the
> gpl-engine to me.
> Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics department.
> Can't wait!

> > The new hardware-only 32-bit graphics engine allows for real-time
> reflection
> > maps and shadows, higher frame rate, and smooth slow-motion replay. New 3D
> > AI modeling allows for a formidable field of realistic competitors.

by **Chris Bloo** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.
I'm sure though that Papyrus realise they can't go alienating
(the spelling is surely wrong?) their main support base, and
will make sure it is playable on a wide range of systems.

I hope so anyway, coz my CPU upgrade is still a while off.

Chris

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by **David L. Coo** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

They waited long enough. By November my guess is 1Ghz will be $1500. Start
saving...

--David

> I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.
> I'm sure though that Papyrus realise they can't go alienating
> (the spelling is surely wrong?) their main support base, and
> will make sure it is playable on a wide range of systems.

> I hope so anyway, coz my CPU upgrade is still a while off.

> Chris

> >Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated
> engine maybe,
> >to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like
> the
> >gpl-engine to me.
> >Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics
> department.
> >Can't wait!

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by **Mike Barlo** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Hmm, did they say anything about a minimum system requirements?

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>> Very good news, but no GPL engine then?

>Hmmm... ??

>Nascar Racing 4 is based on the new Papyrus game engine.

>--
>-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
>-- May the Downforce be with you...
>-- http://www.WeRace.net
>-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Tim O** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 03 May 2000 13:36:20 -0700, Chris Bloom

>I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.
>I'm sure though that Papyrus realise they can't go alienating
>(the spelling is surely wrong?) their main support base, and
>will make sure it is playable on a wide range of systems.

>I hope so anyway, coz my CPU upgrade is still a while off.

>Chris

Fear of too-high system specs is why they kept using that old,
dried-up engine for N3 instead of something with true 3D capabilities.

Talk about alienation... that alienated me.
It felt bogus after playing Sports Car GT, of all things.

Tim

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

The good news is...AMD has scared Intel so much lately that
Intel is bringing out it's 1.5 ghz chip way sooner than planned. The
new chip, Willamette, should be "STARTING" at 1.5ghz and be scalable up
from that point...This will bring down the prices on PIII 800's and AMD
will follow suit with lower prices on Athlons..
dave henrie

> They waited long enough. By November my guess is 1Ghz will be $1500. Start
> saving...

> --David

> > I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.
> > I'm sure though that Papyrus realise they can't go alienating
> > (the spelling is surely wrong?) their main support base, and
> > will make sure it is playable on a wide range of systems.

> > I hope so anyway, coz my CPU upgrade is still a while off.

> > Chris

> > >Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated
> > engine maybe,
> > >to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like
> > the
> > >gpl-engine to me.
> > >Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics
> > department.
> > >Can't wait!

> > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network
> *
> > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

by **Scott B. Huste** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Barlow... what do you care! You will probably run it in pee-wee or
castrated mode anyways ;)

<VBG>

BTW... Hows things going?
--
Scott B. Husted
ICQ #4395450

Editor in Chief
PowerSims.com

> Hmm, did they say anything about a minimum system requirements?

> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> ----------------------------------------
> Mike Barlow
> Marketing Director ZGN http://bovineracing.com/zgnews.htm
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> -----------------------------------------

> >> Very good news, but no GPL engine then?

> >Hmmm... ??

> >Nascar Racing 4 is based on the new Papyrus game engine.

> >--
> >-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> >-- May the Downforce be with you...
> >-- http://www.WeRace.net
> >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise
> >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **patrick dal** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

It sounds to me that Papy has learned some marketing lessons. They clearly
reach
out to the arcade crowd with "introduces the novice to the fun and
e***ment of racing,...." and then offer this for the simmers "but steeps
the expert in all the subtleties..."
I think it is no accident that the "dreaded" GPL physics engine is not
mentioned anywhere (of course
for me you have to change "dreaded" to "blessed").
I think it's pretty clear that DK is going to deliver a sim an par with GPL.
regards,
Patrick

>Very good news, but no GPL engine then? A modified, updated engine maybe,
>to cope with 43 cars and glide or d3d? The screenies look like the
>gpl-engine to me.
>Anyway it sounds like it's ready to be beat gpl in the graphics department.
>Can't wait!

by LL » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

A NEW game with the GPL engine ????

What kind of company is this ?

Hey guys, this is the year 2000, I know GPL is a great game but did you
check the graphics on the latest games ?

The handling is quite okay on rally masters too....

Anyway, GPL rules....

by **Sal V** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

Never mind CPU, what about graphic accelerator support? Glide, D3D, Open-GL
or all of the above?

Sal V.

> On Wed, 03 May 2000 13:36:20 -0700, Chris Bloom

> >I hope this isn't going to be only playable on "Ninja" systems.
> >I'm sure though that Papyrus realise they can't go alienating
> >(the spelling is surely wrong?) their main support base, and
> >will make sure it is playable on a wide range of systems.

> >I hope so anyway, coz my CPU upgrade is still a while off.

> >Chris

> Fear of too-high system specs is why they kept using that old,
> dried-up engine for N3 instead of something with true 3D capabilities.

> Talk about alienation... that alienated me.
> It felt bogus after playing Sports Car GT, of all things.

> Tim

by **Mike Barlo** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

I've had more close dices with more driver at the same time then I ever
did in F1. And that just in the pick up races. The F3 league races are far
superior to any F1 race I have ever heard of so far. If I was just after
hot lapping and being busy in a car I'd go for F1, but I'd rather have close
competition.

I do miss the NASCAR races for the "close" racing, however, I like to
use the brakes once in a while :-)

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Mike Barlow
Owner/Driver of Barlow Racing http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/
Marketing Director ZGN http://bovineracing.com/zgnews.htm
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>Barlow... what do you care! You will probably run it in pee-wee or
>castrated mode anyways ;)

><VBG>

>BTW... Hows things going?
>--
>Scott B. Husted
>ICQ #4395450

>Editor in Chief
>PowerSims.com

>> Hmm, did they say anything about a minimum system requirements?

>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>--
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Mike Barlow
>> Marketing Director ZGN http://bovineracing.com/zgnews.htm
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>--
>> -----------------------------------------

>> >> Very good news, but no GPL engine then?

>> >Hmmm... ??

>> >Nascar Racing 4 is based on the new Papyrus game engine.

>> >--
>> >-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
>> >-- May the Downforce be with you...
>> >-- http://www.WeRace.net
>> >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
>realise
>> >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Joe6** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

>Sierra just dropped this PR in our news box that announces Nascar Racing 4.
>The whole PR is quite large so I'll just smack up the good parts below:

Thanks fro the heads-up, sounds great! From any other developer I'd be
sceptical of the "new physics engine" claim, but I trust Papy and Dave
K.

Joe McGinn
_____________________
Radical Entertainment

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