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EASports Superbike Questions

Saint1

EASports Superbike Questions

by Saint1 » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Hi,

I have had this game for a while but never played it more than a few
minutes.  Well I'm ready to give it a chance now..but I've lost my manual.
If I play arcade mode in a quick race I can get to a replay just by hitting
escape.  But when playing in sim mode and practicing or racing...I can't.
What do I do to get it to pull up a replay of the race that I'm in?  I've
tried hitting escape but that doesn't work...when I do that it says RESTART,
OK, or CANCEL.

Also I'm not at all familiar with Motorcycle racing.  What is the difference
between the leagues in these games AMA Superbikes, EASports Superbikes, and
GP500?  I hear all these names and riders such as Foggy, and Doohan.  But
I'm confused about the differences between the organizations they race for
as well?

Thanx in advance.

Saint19

Reg Mucke

EASports Superbike Questions

by Reg Mucke » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I'm not sure about the replay question but to answer your class question,Ea's
superbike game is based on the World Superbike class which has riders by the
name of Fogarty,Slight,Edwards and so on.I believe that other Superbike game is
just that as well.These bikes are the baddest of the bad,the big ones and the
most prestigious to Europe.In america,theres AMA racing.A bunch of different
classes but the big two are Supersport and Superbike.Superbikes consist of
mostly 750cc bikes where the Sports consist of factory 600cc's.Riders like the
Nicky Hayden,Hacking,Duhamel and Chandler are some of the riders.IMO most
Americans like these tracks and riders more than the World circuit.Its sorta
like comparing CART and F1.And finally GP500 is a World cycle series where the
bikes are 500cc's.And you'll hear the name Doohan in this class.So I hope I've
enlightened on this a bit:)

Mark


> Hi,

> I have had this game for a while but never played it more than a few
> minutes.  Well I'm ready to give it a chance now..but I've lost my manual.
> If I play arcade mode in a quick race I can get to a replay just by hitting
> escape.  But when playing in sim mode and practicing or racing...I can't.
> What do I do to get it to pull up a replay of the race that I'm in?  I've
> tried hitting escape but that doesn't work...when I do that it says RESTART,
> OK, or CANCEL.

> Also I'm not at all familiar with Motorcycle racing.  What is the difference
> between the leagues in these games AMA Superbikes, EASports Superbikes, and
> GP500?  I hear all these names and riders such as Foggy, and Doohan.  But
> I'm confused about the differences between the organizations they race for
> as well?

> Thanx in advance.

> Saint19

speedrace

EASports Superbike Questions

by speedrace » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00

and may I add that the GP 500 is the baddest of all the bad...  Running
two-strokes pushing out 180-200 hp or something like that with the bikes
sliding everywhere......


> I'm not sure about the replay question but to answer your class
question,Ea's
> superbike game is based on the World Superbike class which has riders by
the
> name of Fogarty,Slight,Edwards and so on.I believe that other Superbike
game is
> just that as well.These bikes are the baddest of the bad,the big ones and
the
> most prestigious to Europe.In america,theres AMA racing.A bunch of
different
> classes but the big two are Supersport and Superbike.Superbikes consist of
> mostly 750cc bikes where the Sports consist of factory 600cc's.Riders like
the
> Nicky Hayden,Hacking,Duhamel and Chandler are some of the riders.IMO most
> Americans like these tracks and riders more than the World circuit.Its
sorta
> like comparing CART and F1.And finally GP500 is a World cycle series where
the
> bikes are 500cc's.And you'll hear the name Doohan in this class.So I hope
I've
> enlightened on this a bit:)

> Mark


> > Hi,

> > I have had this game for a while but never played it more than a few
> > minutes.  Well I'm ready to give it a chance now..but I've lost my
manual.
> > If I play arcade mode in a quick race I can get to a replay just by
hitting
> > escape.  But when playing in sim mode and practicing or racing...I
can't.
> > What do I do to get it to pull up a replay of the race that I'm in?
I've
> > tried hitting escape but that doesn't work...when I do that it says
RESTART,
> > OK, or CANCEL.

> > Also I'm not at all familiar with Motorcycle racing.  What is the
difference
> > between the leagues in these games AMA Superbikes, EASports Superbikes,
and
> > GP500?  I hear all these names and riders such as Foggy, and Doohan.
But
> > I'm confused about the differences between the organizations they race
for
> > as well?

> > Thanx in advance.

> > Saint19

George M. Smile

EASports Superbike Questions

by George M. Smile » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00


>  But I'm confused about the differences between the organizations
> they race for as well?

GP[500, 250, 125] = FIM World Motorcycle Championship, this
is the two wheel equivalent of F1.  Three classes are run (with
a fourth, sidecar racing existing in some sort of strange FIM
sanctioning netherworld).  The classes are distinguished by
maximum displacement (the 500 = 500cc) and minimum
weight allowed.  Other than that, as in F1, it is a spend what
you like to go as fast as you can.  Like F1, GP motorcycle
racing has a long and storied history dating back to 1949.
Official links for finding out more are:

http://www.dorna.com
http://www.motograndprix.com

WSBK = World Superbike Championship, this series is more
akin to a touring car championship in that the motorcycles
raced bear more than a passing resemblance to those that
are available to the consumer.  Four classes are run -
Superbike, Supersport, Superstock, and Sidecar.  The
Superbike series is based on homologated production based
machinery which then can be modified according to
a fairly liberal rules set.  Homologation is a strange
rule where at least X (50?) bikes of the motorcycle in
question have to be available for sale to the consumer
by a certain date.  I'm not entirely sure to the rules,
but I believe they revolve around keeping the motor
displacement constant and not touching the frame.
The actual maximum allowable displacement for the
engines is split according to the number of cylinders the
bike has (four = 750cc, two = 1000cc, one = not likely
to happen).

Supersport is a junior class to Superbike where again
the bikes run are based on production machinery.  The
modification rules are far more strict which means the
bikes are far closer to what you can actually buy than
the Superbikes are.  The maximum allowable displacement
for the engines are gain split according to cylinders
(four = 600cc, two = 750cc).  Not entirely sure
about the rules, but I think you can blueprint the
motor, replace the exhaust system, replace the
bodywork, remove the lights, replace the rider
subframe assembly, run different brake pads.  They
also run on non-slick tires and I think they don't run
on race fuel.

Superstock is a further tightening of the rules,
but this time applied to larger displacement engines
(four = 750cc, two = 1000cc).

Sidecar is a creature entirely unto itself.

Although the premise of racing tweaked out production
machinery is not new, WSBK as a series is rather new
with the first 'world' series taking place in 1988.  The
official link for finding out more is:

http://www.worldsbk.com

AMA SB = American Motorcyclist Association Superbike Championship

The much longer running U.S. variant of WSBK.  Pretty
much the same concept as the 'borrowed' WSBK one
described above.  There are no real differences in the
Superbikes, Supersport in the U.S. is slightly different in
that race fuel is run but a few less overall modifications
are allowed.  The AMA also forces Supersport riders to
run on D.O.T tires in the rain unlike the Europeans which
allow the bikes to be run on purpose built rain tires.
The Superstock class is renamed 750 Supersport in
the U.S. and we ditch sidecars in favor of Formula
Extreme (a run whatever you like fully tweaked
production based series), 250 GP (similar to the
FIM 250cc GP although quite a few rungs down the
ladder), and Pro Thunder (or own beast entirely
unto itself).

The official link for finding out more is:

http://www.ama-cycle.org/prorace/

Apologies in advance for any mistakes.

 - George

Toni Lassil

EASports Superbike Questions

by Toni Lassil » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> I'm not sure about the replay question but to answer your class question,Ea's
> superbike game is based on the World Superbike class which has riders by the
> name of Fogarty,Slight,Edwards and so on.I believe that other Superbike game is
> just that as well.These bikes are the baddest of the bad,the big ones and the
> most prestigious to Europe.In america,theres AMA racing.A bunch of different

Hmmm, no. Even if they are slightly smaller in cc, the 500cc champ bikes
beat the ***out of any Superbikes. And they are considered a higher
class anywhere you go.

--
Toni Lassila

Saint1

EASports Superbike Questions

by Saint1 » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Well, thanx to those who answered my questions.  I have finally found my
book.  Heh..we moved a little over a month ago and I had placed it in the
wrong box.

Anyways I found out about the replays.  The book says it only does a
completed action or sim race.  So you have to wait until the end of the race
to get the replay option.  Too bad.  But oh well.

Saint19


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