rec.autos.simulators

> Is this anti cheat system something that can be purchased from OLR or shared
> with other race series Joe?

> Mitch

> > I'm sure some of you noticed a few days ago on OLR, you had to
> > download a new .cab file before entering the arena. The reason why I
> > kept quite on explaining what the upgrade does; because we have
> > installed a Cheat Detection on OLR. I wanted to see who was being a
> > "bad boy" and sure enough I did catch a few people :)

> > on OLR, I will say that we take cheating on our servers a serious
> > issue. The way our cheat detection system is setup, there is no way
> > somebody can give me an excuse they didn't cheat. We have spent some
> > considerable amount of research and funds to get this project
> > completed. Even though we have completed and have an Anti-Cheat system
> > in place, we are still continuing to stay up with the times and keep
> > this our top priority to have the most robust system in place.

> > Here are the ground rules. If you run a league on OLR, please email me
> > the name of your league, your screen name and email address. On
> > Flashpoint Racing Series, there is no need. I have all the CRS
> > information for Flashpoint. If you run a non-Flashpoint league on OLR,
> > I need you to email me ASAP. Once I catch a driver cheating on OLR,
> > you will be notified, as well as the driver who attempted to cheat.

> > If you are a basic, standard, or premium member and get caught
> > cheating, then expect to receive an immediate 30 day suspension. Your
> > admin of all leagues you run on OLR will also be notified that you
> > have been suspended from OLR for 30 days. If you get caught a 2nd
> > time, then expect your screen name to be permanently deleted from OLR.
> > On free members who race on OLR, if you are caught cheating, you can
> > expect me to delete your screen name from OLR and will never be able
> > to use it again.

> > As you see, we are taking this very serious and I will always be
> > watching. A few members have already been contacted and was pretty
> > surprised I knew to the exact second when they attempted. Also note,
> > once you are caught cheating, the system doesn't disconnect you. We
> > tried running that, but it was causing latency issues. It can be
> > really embarrassing if you are caught cheating on OLR and winning your
> > race, only to have all of your points revoked and suspended for 30
> > days.

> > I want to thank all of you for being patient and feel this will ensure
> > a level playing field on OLR, and knowing the drivers racing next to
> > you are legit. I will also say in the past few days, I was very
> > pleased; because many of the drivers that people thought were
> > cheating, was in fact not cheating, but were good; because they have
> > put the effort by practicing.

> > Joe Lomas
> > President
> > Onlineracin.com,Inc.
> > http://onlineracin.com
> > We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
> > http://frshosting.com

> > Is this anti cheat system something that can be purchased from OLR or shared
> > with other race series Joe?

> > Mitch

> We spent close to 20K getting this setup.  Also, the way we have the
> cheat detection working, is not only on OLR, but on any game that is
> being run on OLR.  I might get DTR running again, but need to do more
> testing.  I can tell you that any game being run will get detected, if
> it's on OLR.  This is all embedded into the required files when you
> first race on OLR.

> To run on OLR pick up arena it doesn't cost you any money.  If a
> driver wants to run in the 50+ non-flashpoint leagues, it only cost
> them 3.95 per month.  If a league wants to race on OLR, the league
> owner pays 13.95; because they have access to league tools to create
> their own league, schedule, driver list and newsletter and no website
> is required.  Members only pay 3.95 per month and can join any league
> from http://www.onlineracin.com/LeagueTool/LeagueFinder.asp and only
> pay the same price.  We have other higher plans, but it's not bad for
> that amount.

> From the responses I'm getting, it looks like I might have to get a
> "wall of shame" created.  Right now, the database gives me the
> memberid number and I have to go to another page to see who that
> member is.  I think we can easily make a page to only show the screen
> name.  Once that screen name pops up, I might go as far as removing
> that screen name from the database, so the cheater can never use that
> screen name again, just losing their ranking and everything else.

> We are looking to adding other games in the future.  The cheat
> detection took a long.... time in the making, but feel like it took a
> huge burden off my back.   It was really sad to see innocent drivers
> get accused of cheating.

> There was another remark made about people will always find ways.
> That's true, which is why we are spending some bucks every month to do
> constant research and always keeping up with times to keep the cheat
> detection updated.  I'm really happy we have it setup with all games
> instead of just one.  It makes adding additional games more easy and
> know we have a tool to fight against cheaters instead of relying on
> the maker of the game for cooperation.

> Joe Lomas
> President
> Onlineracin.com,Inc.
> http://onlineracin.com
> We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
> http://frshosting.com

> I like everything right up till the $3.95 per user (times 15 users).  That
> adds up quickly for guys that only want to run a race or two per week.   Id
> love to see RASCAR on OLR but compared to our $20/mo I just cant justify it.

> Mitch

> I'm sure some of you noticed a few days ago on OLR, you had to
> download a new .cab file before entering the arena. The reason why I
> kept quite on explaining what the upgrade does; because we have
> installed a Cheat Detection on OLR. I wanted to see who was being a
> "bad boy" and sure enough I did catch a few people :)

> on OLR, I will say that we take cheating on our servers a serious
> issue. The way our cheat detection system is setup, there is no way
> somebody can give me an excuse they didn't cheat. We have spent some
> considerable amount of research and funds to get this project
> completed. Even though we have completed and have an Anti-Cheat system
> in place, we are still continuing to stay up with the times and keep
> this our top priority to have the most robust system in place.

> Here are the ground rules. If you run a league on OLR, please email me
> the name of your league, your screen name and email address. On
> Flashpoint Racing Series, there is no need. I have all the CRS
> information for Flashpoint. If you run a non-Flashpoint league on OLR,
> I need you to email me ASAP. Once I catch a driver cheating on OLR,
> you will be notified, as well as the driver who attempted to cheat.

> If you are a basic, standard, or premium member and get caught
> cheating, then expect to receive an immediate 30 day suspension. Your
> admin of all leagues you run on OLR will also be notified that you
> have been suspended from OLR for 30 days. If you get caught a 2nd
> time, then expect your screen name to be permanently deleted from OLR.
> On free members who race on OLR, if you are caught cheating, you can
> expect me to delete your screen name from OLR and will never be able
> to use it again.

> As you see, we are taking this very serious and I will always be
> watching. A few members have already been contacted and was pretty
> surprised I knew to the exact second when they attempted. Also note,
> once you are caught cheating, the system doesn't disconnect you. We
> tried running that, but it was causing latency issues. It can be
> really embarrassing if you are caught cheating on OLR and winning your
> race, only to have all of your points revoked and suspended for 30
> days.

> I want to thank all of you for being patient and feel this will ensure
> a level playing field on OLR, and knowing the drivers racing next to
> you are legit. I will also say in the past few days, I was very
> pleased; because many of the drivers that people thought were
> cheating, was in fact not cheating, but were good; because they have
> put the effort by practicing.

> Joe Lomas
> President
> Onlineracin.com,Inc.
> http://onlineracin.com
> We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
> http://frshosting.com

> > I think you should also post their telephone numbers, email addresses
> > and full names and addresses. Have it published in their local
> > newspapers. Jump start an IRS tax audit etc..

> > Ty
> > : O

>     I'm for full disclosure Ty.  I think letting everyone know how and who
> is important.  For years we've had rumours about certain individuals
> cheating.  Now, if OLR can document the trangressions, we can all learn the
> do's and don'ts of cheating.  I'd rather be fully informed than just
> rely on the online chats to hear suspicions of cheaters.  
>    And...the REAL fast people can have any black cloud removed from
> themselves.  I don't race on OLR, so I'm speaking in theory, but I do know
> cheating has been prevelant in the past, and I'm pretty sure it will
> continue in some form in the future.  But I applaud OLR for attempting to
> give their PAYING CUSTOMERS real value.  

> dave henrie

> I completely understand Mitch.  OLR is not for everybody.  If all 20
> only race on RASCAR and free leagues and nothing else, then I can see
> OLR would not be for them.   If drivers are having to pay server dues
> for separate leagues, then it can really add up.  On OLR, a driver
> only pays 3.95 per month and can race as much as 50 different leagues
> without having to pay for any additional fees.  If they want to run in
> 50+ non-fp leagues and 40+ Flashpoints leagues, then it's only 7.95
> per month.

> Joe Lomas
> President
> Onlineracin.com,Inc.
> http://onlineracin.com
> We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
> http://frshosting.com

> Giving full disclosure is not a good idea.  Reason being, even free
> members can race on OLR and you can put in any name you want when
> creating screen names.

> Also want to give you guys a heads up that we have corrected an
> exploit on our OLR Cheat detection.  People were trying to be creative
> by launching a race, then closing the OLR Applet prior to entering the
> game, thus bypassing the OLR cheat detection.   We have made the
> corrections on OLR, so even if you close the Race Arena, it will still
> detect if you are running cheats on OLR.

> In addition to this, it will add a process once you launch the game.
> Once the game is launched, the driver would not be able to go back to
> windows and terminate the process.  If you are attempting to terminate
> the cheat detection, I will be alerted, then you will be promptly
> notified :)  Once the game shuts down, then the cheat detection
> process will terminate.

> There are two separate reports that I will get.  One, if somebody
> tries to shut off the Cheat Detection, and the Second one is if
> somebody is actually running a cheat program.   The second report, I
> will post screen names for those people who try to cheat on OLR for
> all to see :)

> Good news for Flashpoint Racing Series drivers.  There is no need to
> upload replays and results for cheat detection.  Of course, if you are
> in the top 3, you still need to send your results to your admin, and
> save replays if somebody is filing a protest against you.  But we no
> longer require you to upload those files.

> --
> Joe Lomas
> President
> Onlineracin.com,Inc.
> http://onlineracin.com
> We Provide Web Hosting Solutions
> http://frshosting.com

> > > I think you should also post their telephone numbers, email addresses
> > > and full names and addresses. Have it published in their local
> > > newspapers. Jump start an IRS tax audit etc..

> > > Ty
> > > : O

> >     I'm for full disclosure Ty.  I think letting everyone know how and
who
> > is important.  For years we've had rumours about certain individuals
> > cheating.  Now, if OLR can document the trangressions, we can all learn
the
> > do's and don'ts of cheating.  I'd rather be fully informed than just
> > rely on the online chats to hear suspicions of cheaters.
> >    And...the REAL fast people can have any black cloud removed from
> > themselves.  I don't race on OLR, so I'm speaking in theory, but I do
know
> > cheating has been prevelant in the past, and I'm pretty sure it will
> > continue in some form in the future.  But I applaud OLR for attempting
to
> > give their PAYING CUSTOMERS real value.

> > dave henrie