rec.autos.simulators

> "In fact, the physics model is so accurate now that we can plug in a
> real-life Winston Cup Car setup, and the car will behave just as it would in
> real life. "

> Careful you don't step in the bullshit.

> Here's a thought for mod-friendly online simming.  With NR2002, you
already
> DL and use locally some parameters from the server, such as track grip,
> skins, etc.  Why not do the same with the track geometry and car data?
They
> can even use text files ala ISI; open for anyone to tweak to their hearts'
> desire, but if you're racing online you use the common carset used by the
> server.  Might add a second or two to the log-on, but I don't see any
other
> big problems.  Seems like that would nuke the most common avenues for
> cheating, though intrepid souls will always find a way... ;-)

> SB

> > > NR2003 could live forever - or at least a very long time!  We could
> create
> > > mods for Australian V8 Supercars, TOCA BTCC, ALMS, CART, etc. all with
> the
> > > Papy physics / graphics and superior multiplayer.  I wonder if there
is
> a
> > > possibility that this will happen...

> > While I completely agree that this would be an awesome prospect, I see
> quite
> > a major problem with that (sorry cup half full today ;))

> > It would be very hard to guarentee that everyone was using the correct
> car,
> > i.e. that they havent fiddled with the physics / power.  I know this can
> be
> > done if you REALLY REALLY want to in GPL / Nascar, but its far less
likely
> > than in an "open" sim.  Perhaps there could be some safety checks?  I
> dunno.
> > I think GPL's closed data files have actually been one of the big
reasons
> > that it has lasted in the online arena for so long.

> > I hope it is open - i dont really care if it ruins ANOTHER nascar title
:P

> > All the best,
> > Ash
> > http://www.siroccoracing.com

> > "In fact, the physics model is so accurate now that we can plug in a
> > real-life Winston Cup Car setup, and the car will behave just as it
would in
> > real life. "

> > Careful you don't step in the bullshit.

> How many times have we heard that from Papy?

> -jde

> Well I am sure he's tellin' it like it is.  I mean, just check the quote
> about system req's.  "The recommended system is a P3-800, 128 megs of RAM,
> and a 32MB D3D or Open GL video card. "  So my old box over in the corner
> will rock with this puppy.  COOL!

> One more tidbit, though not a happy one for those looking for an early
Xmas
> toy to play with:

> "SM : There will be a demo, but it will be post-release. "

> SB
> ...feeling cynical today. ;-)

> > > "In fact, the physics model is so accurate now that we can plug in a
> > > real-life Winston Cup Car setup, and the car will behave just as it
> would in
> > > real life. "

> > > Careful you don't step in the bullshit.

> > How many times have we heard that from Papy?

> > -jde

> He also said the specs were the same as NR2002, so either he's lying about
> the specs, or he's lying about the physics improvements...

> > Well I am sure he's tellin' it like it is.  I mean, just check the quote
> > about system req's.  "The recommended system is a P3-800, 128 megs of
RAM,
> > and a 32MB D3D or Open GL video card. "  So my old box over in the
corner
> > will rock with this puppy.  COOL!

> > One more tidbit, though not a happy one for those looking for an early
> Xmas
> > toy to play with:

> > "SM : There will be a demo, but it will be post-release. "

> > SB
> > ...feeling cynical today. ;-)

> > > > "In fact, the physics model is so accurate now that we can plug in a
> > > > real-life Winston Cup Car setup, and the car will behave just as it
> > would in
> > > > real life. "

> > > > Careful you don't step in the bullshit.

> > > How many times have we heard that from Papy?

> > > -jde

> Well I'm sure there are some stretches of the truth in there for sure but
> look at it this way, come Feb it will be released and it will no doubt be
> the best sim avaiable.

> > He also said the specs were the same as NR2002, so either he's lying
about
> > the specs, or he's lying about the physics improvements...

message

> > > Well I am sure he's tellin' it like it is.  I mean, just check the
quote
> > > about system req's.  "The recommended system is a P3-800, 128 megs of
> RAM,
> > > and a 32MB D3D or Open GL video card. "  So my old box over in the
> corner
> > > will rock with this puppy.  COOL!

> > > One more tidbit, though not a happy one for those looking for an early
> > Xmas
> > > toy to play with:

> > > "SM : There will be a demo, but it will be post-release. "

> > > SB
> > > ...feeling cynical today. ;-)

> > > > > "In fact, the physics model is so accurate now that we can plug in
a
> > > > > real-life Winston Cup Car setup, and the car will behave just as
it
> > > would in
> > > > > real life. "

> > > > > Careful you don't step in the bullshit.

> > > > How many times have we heard that from Papy?

> > > > -jde

> Agreed.  Hope Noonan's converter will work with it...

> >http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=7430&mode=thread&order=0

> ------
> Q : What sort of damage system will there be in NASCAR 2003?

> SM : At this time we are still tweaking our damage model. Visually not
> much will change from NR2002, but we plan on making sure that the
> NR2003 damage model more accurately represents the penalties that
> would result from contact with walls and other cars in the real world.
> -----

> For the love of all things good I hope this is true.

> Jason

> > Agreed.  Hope Noonan's converter will work with it...

> Steve:

> I've read elsewhere that Dave has the intention of making an NR2k3
> "patch" for registered users.

> -jde

>Does that mean that if your back end hits the wall, your front end won't
>magically crumple anymore?

>Speaking of Xbox racing games, I checked out Sega GT 2002 recently - very
>dissappointing from a sim racers point of view.  The handling is just as
>vague and forgiving as Gran Turismo 3.  PGR isn't very realistic either but
>at least it's fun and demanding to drive at the limit.