rec.autos.simulators

by **KCDC** » Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Hi,

I'm looking for a new wheel. My TM GP1 is wearing quickly with all the GPL
racing. I really like the Logitech wheel, force feedback or not, but those
pedals seem pretty questionable. So I'm wondering what is inside. Are the
pedals potentiometer controls, or are they optical? That will make
difference to how my pot controlled pedals would splice in. Are the pedals
the same inside on the force feedback and non-FF systems?

It would likely be difficult to do much modification to the FF wheel
assembly, but it may be possible to splice in some better pedals without too
much trouble, if the stock ones aren't digital/optical. Does the FF version
work well with GPL in non-force feedback mode? The FF one I tried felt a bit
strange, but it wasn't powered up. How's the feel in non-FF mode?

Is the non-force feedback Logitech wheel optical/digital, or potentiometer?
I was thinking of taking the wheel and running it on some decent bearings,
but that will be much more difficult if it is optical.

I like the wheel, nice shift paddles, nice feel, right diameter, lots of
buttons - probably a better layout than even the real expensive specialty
wheels, but the rest of the execution lives down to it's price. I'm hoping
it would be a good starting point for a semi-custom set-up.

Thanks for the help!

Kevin Caldwell
Calgary, Canada

by **SteveBla** » Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I have a non-FF Wingman Formula and highly recommend it. I don't think
you'll do better for the money. I HAVE had mine apart, and have tweaked it to
my tastes. See the review I just posted for details. Further customization
wouldn't be out of the question; the basics are good, and it probably wouldn't
be too hard, if you're so inclined.
The wheel and pedals do use pots, not optical sensors, so they're
compatible with other hardware. In fact, I plugged the Logitech wiring into my
CH pedals. It works GREAT, and required only some outer-cable stripping; no
soldering. The standard pedals can be made quite useable with stiffer
springs, easily found at most any hardware store. Search deja news for various
sources.

Steve B.

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by **Galle** » Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I have replaced the accelerator spring on my Wingman Formula Force. I was
satisfied with the tension on the brake. You must remove all screws from
the bottom of the unit. The pedals will fall out of their slots, so you
must make sure they are replaced correctly after changing the spring. It
may be a little tricky to get everything lined up again. It was about a 20
minute job, and cost $2.
The springs are "handyman" brand, available at Home Depot. The model number
is SP-9711.
The springs dimensions are 23/32" X 3-1/2" X .041

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>Hi,

>I'm looking for a new wheel. My TM GP1 is wearing quickly with all the GPL
>racing. I really like the Logitech wheel, force feedback or not, but those
>pedals seem pretty questionable. So I'm wondering what is inside. Are the
>pedals potentiometer controls, or are they optical? That will make
>difference to how my pot controlled pedals would splice in. Are the pedals
>the same inside on the force feedback and non-FF systems?

>It would likely be difficult to do much modification to the FF wheel
>assembly, but it may be possible to splice in some better pedals without
too
>much trouble, if the stock ones aren't digital/optical. Does the FF version
>work well with GPL in non-force feedback mode? The FF one I tried felt a
bit
>strange, but it wasn't powered up. How's the feel in non-FF mode?

>Is the non-force feedback Logitech wheel optical/digital, or potentiometer?
>I was thinking of taking the wheel and running it on some decent bearings,
>but that will be much more difficult if it is optical.

>I like the wheel, nice shift paddles, nice feel, right diameter, lots of
>buttons - probably a better layout than even the real expensive specialty
>wheels, but the rest of the execution lives down to it's price. I'm hoping
>it would be a good starting point for a semi-custom set-up.

>Thanks for the help!

>Kevin Caldwell
>Calgary, Canada

by **KCDC** » Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Thanks to Steve and don (DHPII) for all the helpful input.

I think I'll run out and buy a non-force feed back Logitech, and splice in
my trusty CH pedals until I get some better ones done. My cheapie TM GP1 has
been suprisingly good, but it doesn't take the heavy GPL use that well.

It is a very nice looking wheel, although I will that analog hand clutch on
the GP1.

Kevin Caldwell
Calgary, Canada

> I have a non-FF Wingman Formula and highly recommend it. I don't think
>you'll do better for the money. I HAVE had mine apart, and have tweaked it
to
>my tastes. See the review I just posted for details. Further
customization
>wouldn't be out of the question; the basics are good, and it probably
wouldn't
>be too hard, if you're so inclined.
> The wheel and pedals do use pots, not optical sensors, so they're
>compatible with other hardware. In fact, I plugged the Logitech wiring
into my
>CH pedals. It works GREAT, and required only some outer-cable stripping;
no
>soldering. The standard pedals can be made quite useable with stiffer
>springs, easily found at most any hardware store. Search deja news for
various
>sources.

>Steve B.

>remove "edy" from address for email

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