rec.autos.simulators

There are examples for such moves, some done by MS, Hakkinen did one at Spa
for example, Verstappen can do it, or like when Villeneuve passed MS around
the outside in his Williams.

IMO we have yet to see a brilliant move from JPM, his are usually just
breakneck.

Achim

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Achim

Hey, Newbies are supposed to lurk for a while and get the feel of a NG
before posting  :-)

MS

Wrong, Patrick Head said he thought it was a 'wind-up' that circulates
the pitlane once in a while. So yeah, he 'commented', but he didn't
think it mattered.

Nick.

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Head wants Ferrari tyre clarification

Williams tech boss unhappy about Scheuy's number of tyres

Williams technical director Patrick Head is seeking clarification about
the number of sets of tyres world champion Michael Schumacher will have
at his disposal in Interlagos.

The situation has arisen because Ferrari has brought an F2002 to Brazil
as Schumacher's race car and the older F2001 as his spare. The new car's
wheels do not fit the F2001 due to different off-sets.

Speaking on Friday afternoon, Head said: "We are still not quite clear
what the situation is, but from what I hear, the FIA has approved that
tomorrow Michael can have four sets of tyres for the 2002 car and four
sets for the 2001 car. If that's correct, it is completely against
article 80C of the Sporting Code, which says that the driver and not the
car, is allocated only four sets of tyres.

"Ferrari has a problem because the wheels on one car don't fit the
wheels on the other, so I can see why they want to do it, but it is,
from our understanding, not compliant with article 80c. We will be
having some discussions."

Head then added with a smile: "It may not be the case. Every now and
then there's a wind-up that goes up and down the pitlane and one has to
be careful not to over-react..."
---

He obviously cared enough to comment, enough to make statements about MS
having 4 sets available for both cars would be "completely against
article 80C of the Sporting Code, which says that the driver and not the
car, is allocated only four sets of tyres"

Back to you

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com
http://www.teammirage.com

"Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life"
--Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

MS was at fault, but he'd never admit it.

How many people really watch the practice sessions? It's a fraction of those
that watch the qualifying/race. It's going to be a good thing for F1, they
have to start reducing the costs or we'll see the extinction of all but the
top 3-4 teams, and that won't be good for the sport.

I thought MS move against JPM in the Brazil race was a little on the extreme
side, theres blocking and theres being an idiot... but it's a shiny red
Ferrari, so nothing will be done about it. MS may be a great driver, but I
can't stand his arrogance and over agressive behaviour on the track, it's a
shame the greatest driver in the world at present is a ***... but then
maybe it's prerqusite.  :o)

Although MS did have 14 sets of tires 7 were allotted to the 2002 car and 7
for the 2001 car he had as a spare. The reason being that the wheels for the
cars were different... as long as he stuck to the maximum 7 sets used over
the weekend he was fine, but if he had used a total of 8 then they would
have penalised him.

Heckler

Cheers,
Ron

I saw that :-)

Hey, is Larry Perkins back in the driver seat again, I got that
impression from what I read on his web site

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com
http://www.teammirage.com

"Animation isn't the illusion of life; it is life"
--Chuck Jones (1912-2002)--

Getting Larry out of the driving seat would be like trying to bump our
butts on the moon. <G>
He was talking about going the team manager route, similiar to Peter Brock
has now done, but i think Larry will need a damn big crowbar to get him out
of the driving seat and into the manager's seat. :)
He loves his racing as you well know, so i think we will see him driving
around a bit more yet..
I nearly replied to your post the other day Goy about wishing we had a
decent mod for Aussie V8's, but i figured for a non-Aussie (or in your case
"honorary-Aussie") you were doing a damn good job on your own trying to
promote V8 racing. <G>
It is a good series and would make a great addition to our sim experiences.

That's three posts from me in 2 days, so i better slink back into lurk mode
now.... :)

Cheers,
Ron

"Goy Larsen"
  Sporting Code and F1????  why don't those sound like they belong
together??????
dave henrie????

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Yeah, we're busy bringing arguments back from the dead ;) Regarding
Malaysia that was, but those two are inseparable when it comes to F1
races nowadays.

Good to see some decent competition for MS finally anyway :)

Rafe Mc

If you're talking about TV coverage of practice, fair enough. But as
for watching trackside, I would never miss a practice session. Always
entertaining when the drivers try to push the envelope and get out of
shape, without the worry about damaging their car (to a degree).
Friday attendance at GPs will be woeful.

I agree, I thought that JPM was pretty committed to going for the
inside and MS shut the door pretty damn late. But I guess his
aggressiveness and ruthlessness is part of why he's no. 1.

Well if that's the case then fair enough, he wouldn't be using more
than other drivers. I can see their point in giving him a full
allocation to each car, since he may choose to use the full allocation
just on the F2002.

Rafe Mc

David G Fisher

One should in all fairness also look at previous incidents between the two
where JPM made rude or rookie moves that cost MS a lot.

JPM's last year's pass in T1 in Brazil was not the great pass many made of
it, it was a rookie maneuver which only worked because MS went way wide to
allow JPM to recover, and then consequently in the next corner was on the
curb or even halfway on the grass and couldn't accelerate. Or JPM's move in
Zeltweg where both had to come to a stop - that was not a racing maneuver
either, it was a rookie mistake from JPM.

I think if we're talking about rough moves and fairness, the situation is at
least balanced between the two :-)

Achim

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