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What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

MaXX

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by MaXX » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I just thought I'd pose this question. I am very much a fan of CMR
and can't wait for CMR2. I found that with a little practice and stage
knowledge I could achieve times well within the top 10s posted on
the various hot lap pages.

Now I've not had RM long and in truth did buy it more as a stopgap
until CMR2 and never thought it would be on a par with the CMR
from a physics/simulation point of view, although it is obviously
better graphically.

I do enjoy the race gameplay which is fun but in trying to do hotlaps
I'm finding I'm having to compensate much more for the quirks of the
cars and courses than actual out and out technique.

I have posted some good times for Sweden and USA which I feel
do have less quirks (particularly Sweden) than the other courses.

I've so far found it very difficult to noitice too much difference
between any of the cars (certainly there seems very little performance
difference). Also, with the setups, I still havent figured out what is
best for what conditions, they seems to make very little difference
although I havent tried Tarmac tyres on Snow etc.

Theres already been much comment about the use of walls and
barriers on the dedicated RM boards, I echo this (essentially they
are saying that in order to acheive v.fast time, at some stages, you
need to crash-bang-wallaop into the walls/barriers.

Certainly it seems that to do a good lap on many stage you need
to be fortunate. You do need some skill in order to be there and
there abouts but so often a really tidy laps is ruined by a little
quirk.

I tried to decide whether it was just more challenging than CMR,
hence my frustration, but I'm not so sure. I think there is just
something there that I can't put my finger on.

It is a great game and lots of fun but very frustrating I feel for
hot-lappers.

I'm particularly interested in what experienced CMR players
think of the game, particlar in relation to my comments above.

MaXX

Leo Merikalli

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Leo Merikalli » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Thats true. Its frustrating to drive 1:17's on Canarian SSS when using the
walls you can get below 1:16 without troubles. IMO RM kicks some ass and its
the the best sim after GPL but the beta testers should have noticed this
annoyance. The cars in RM could also be lot more fragile.

LM

Thore Sorense

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Thore Sorense » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I have used CMR for about a year or so, and think that it's good driving
with the keyboard... My stage times are pretty good and the only
"boring" thing is, that you only have about 50 stages including the
Special Stages and the Secret's....

The best stage-times is using the Audi Quattro, but I think it's more
fun driving the Lancia Integrale...it's easyer handling this car...

I wish there was a way to "produce" (convert?) some new (virtual?)
tracks for this game....:-)

And then last week, I bought Rally Masters...:-) The first look told me,
that it was _the_game_, and just last night after a few evenings of
driving (about 10 hours) I  "upgraded" to drive among the WRC
competitors...:-( I'm still working on the legends...still with my
keyboard!
I thinkit's rather good, very powerfull sliding, but the competition is
tough!

A wish for the game for me, is to drive _one_ car, and not to change
cars every time I change track/championship... I know this is the way
the real-world RM on Canary Isl. is, but....
Another wish is a track editor.....

A few nights ago I was told, that I got the Citroen Xsara and the
Peugeot 206 WRC, but it's gone again....:(
(Maybe it's because I reduced the difficulty to "Easy"?

Is there some cheatcodes anywhere, where we can find all cars/ tracks?

--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards


DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

Tony Rickar

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:00:00

http://www.avault.com/cheats

Peter Nilsso

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Peter Nilsso » Sun, 30 Apr 2000 04:00:00



SNIP

Check in th Progress folder. Do you have a .DTA file there?

/petern

Thore Sorense

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Thore Sorense » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:24:16 GMT, Peter Nilsson




>SNIP
>>A few nights ago I was told, that I got the Citroen Xsara and the
>>Peugeot 206 WRC, but it's gone again....:(
>>(Maybe it's because I reduced the difficulty to "Easy"?

>Check in th Progress folder. Do you have a .DTA file there?

I found the cheat codes on vault.com, and after installation I have all
the cars/tracks...:)

By the way... I see you are swedish....do you know about new tracks/cars
for STCC?

--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards


DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

Peter Nilsso

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Peter Nilsso » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00



>On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:24:16 GMT, Peter Nilsson



>>SNIP
>>>A few nights ago I was told, that I got the Citroen Xsara and the
>>>Peugeot 206 WRC, but it's gone again....:(
>>>(Maybe it's because I reduced the difficulty to "Easy"?

>>Check in th Progress folder. Do you have a .DTA file there?

>I found the cheat codes on vault.com, and after installation I have all
>the cars/tracks...:)

>By the way... I see you are swedish....do you know about new tracks/cars
>for STCC?

Haven't got the slightest... Sorry.
All I know is that STCC was made by the same developer group, DICE.
Don't even know about a homepage.

/petern

Thore Sorense

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Thore Sorense » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

On Tue, 02 May 2000 22:52:17 GMT, Peter Nilsson


>>By the way... I see you are swedish....do you know about new tracks/cars
>>for STCC?

>Haven't got the slightest... Sorry.
>All I know is that STCC was made by the same developer group, DICE.
>Don't even know about a homepage.

For your (and others) reference: http://www.stccspel.com

I think it's a good competition for TOCA2.....and you do not need a
top-end PC. My average 200MHz Pnetium with a Voodoo2/12MB is all it
needs... and the price is OK too...about 30 USD at www.webhallen.com.

--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards


DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

Colin Harri

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Colin Harri » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

I have STCC, and really quite like it, but I think I must have gone wrong in
setting the pedals up...every time I take my foot off the gas, the brake
seems to go on fully. I note that I can't get the car to 'feel' right in
RC2000, either (ame company) so I guess I'm doing something wrong, or
perhaps it doesn't like a Sidewinder FF? Would appreciate some advice, if
possible...

--

Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL
Proud co-owner - CLONE N.Legends league
http://members.chello.se/clone/index.htm
ICQ 25485061


> On Tue, 02 May 2000 22:52:17 GMT, Peter Nilsson

> >>By the way... I see you are swedish....do you know about new tracks/cars
> >>for STCC?

> >Haven't got the slightest... Sorry.
> >All I know is that STCC was made by the same developer group, DICE.
> >Don't even know about a homepage.

> For your (and others) reference: http://www.stccspel.com

> I think it's a good competition for TOCA2.....and you do not need a
> top-end PC. My average 200MHz Pnetium with a Voodoo2/12MB is all it
> needs... and the price is OK too...about 30 USD at www.webhallen.com.

> --
> Med venlig hilsen / Best regards


> DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

Thore Sorense

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Thore Sorense » Sat, 06 May 2000 04:00:00



I have a Logitech Formula (w/o Force Feedback) wheel and pedals, and had
no problem with installation....:) But I prefere the keyboard as
controller, though...:-)
In RC2K I _have_ to use the wheelm otherwise the steering is almost
impossible.... but since I got Rally Masters last week, I have not used
RC2K....:)

--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards


DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

Mari

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Mari » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

the testers did notice.

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Steven Crook-Dawkin

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Steven Crook-Dawkin » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Sorry am I missing something?


> the testers did notice.

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What did they notice? That it isn't as good as CMR?
(let alone RC2000?)

This CMR fan doesn't know yet - because he is still attempting
to finish CMR completely - and when thats done RC 2000
awaits on the hard disk.

Life, weddings, holidays in Barbados, all seem to get in the way...

--
Steven Crook-Dawkins

physma

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by physma » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hi,

All I can say about RM is that I will NOT be buying it. Had the demo thought
it was s~#t. Way over the top tumbling effect, terrible physics and
graphically very poor.

physman


Jay

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by Jay » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Damn, you guys are harsh!

I think Rally Masters is a lot of fun, graphically better than CMR,
different driving feel, a bit more sensitive but nothing like RC2000.
You can slide the cars through turns like in CMR and once you get the
hang of the car physics can really hang it out!

It's more feature rich than CMR too, as you've got rallycross type
racing, Super Special racing, and regular rallying aganst the clock too.

It supports 3d sound and the tire chirp on the 4WD cars sounds just
like the real deal!

Like CMR it's psudo arcade/sim, so if your a *** sim only type
(ala GPL, RC2000) you might not care for it, but if you are looking for
a rally game to take advantage of the better resolution graphics and 3d
sound that weren't available in 1998 when CMR came out, then this might
be a good choice for you!

At least until this Fall when CMR2 comes out :-)

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parche

What do CMR fans think of Rallymasters

by parche » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00


I have to agree, I can't understand anyone saying that RM is graphically
poor, especially when compared to CMR or RC2000. I tried the demo, got used
to being very gentle and smooth, improved my times on the special stage and
bought the game. If I go back to CMR, it looks and feels like a playstaion
game (well, maybe not that bad)
                Cheers...
                Phillip..


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