As an aside, note that "po" from someone online means "pit out" (leaving
That freaked me out last night, I kept leaving servers as I thought I wasn't
wellcome. D'oh. Figured it out in the end, and came 3rd at Monza. Hurrah
!.
Sean
That freaked me out last night, I kept leaving servers as I thought I wasn't
wellcome. D'oh. Figured it out in the end, and came 3rd at Monza. Hurrah
!.
Sean
Its a whole other world :)
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| As an aside, note that "po" from someone online means "pit out" (leaving
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| That freaked me out last night, I kept leaving servers as I thought I
wasn't
| wellcome. D'oh. Figured it out in the end, and came 3rd at Monza.
Hurrah
| !.
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| Sean
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No, you're quite entitled to race online but you must treat these people
very differently to AI until you are very very fast. Thats how I race after
a bad experience in my first race. Luckily the guy I hit was a fried so he
didn't get too annoyed with me.
When you race against the AI you can dive down the inside and duck in and
out and try that move down the inside of everyone into T1. As an online
newbie, ever ever do this. You'll always land yourself in trouble. You have
to control it a little more like a "real" race. Be more conscious and these
guys are less predictable than the AI.
When you race the Ai you can sometimes have a tendancy to try and pass at
any corner if you are near enough to the car ahead.
I cannot stress this enough that you shouldn't try that online. Only pass
where there is a clear opportunity, I usually wait to get a tow down the
straight and then pass. Only corners to pass on are the ones that are the
actual real life overtaking spot, nowhere else.
Even if the guy ahead takes the corner a little slow, ease off the power,
you won't make it through.
It sounds a bit defeatist to back out of things but your not really your
just picking the right and safest moment like in real life. When you are
faster and so on you may be able get stuck in a little more but not much.
when you race the Ai its easy to drive down the inside into a turn and pass
10 cars. You just can't risk this online as all the other cars are thinking
the same thing but waiting to strike at the right moment, if you get overly
e***d your in trouble.
Of course the golden rule if you do take someone out is to say your sorry
and NEVER try to tell a lie about what happened as they other player will
keep a replay.
Just be more cautious and never drive completely flat out with a car just
infront of you. Its not hard to do but its important you do it.
Ohhhh . . . too close . . . oh that dude just hit the rail . . . here
he comes . . . doh! Just missed him . . . what's that noise? . . BRM
8-o-clock! . . more power!!! Ok mind make Masta work for me . . . turn
in and now back . . . no wait . . . now? . . NO! Crap! *#^%$%^* . . .
sry! Shift+R . . . remember cold tires . . . Yeah I am only 34 seconds
behind the last guy! :-O
Ah it is just too fun.
SLG
(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)
Yeah get some, but much less than other racing games, IMO.
Here's another site for anyone who is starting out in online GPL
racing (strongly suggested reading for our GPLWS league). Pay
attention to it and you'll be a good, clean driver.
Recommended Driver Behaviour
a resource of the
Grand Prix Legends Australian Championship
by Phillip McNelley
http://www.powerup.com.au/~philmak/gplac/rec_driver_beh.htm
"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
There will always be those people who give you a hard time if they feel you
have messed up their race but I have been fortunate to avoid them in the
races I have been involved in. Certainly don't let them put you off... as
long as you are not deliberately causing problems and adhere to the
etiquete of online racing you should be fine. I held off of going online
for a long, long time as I believed I was simply too slow and would spoil
things for the other competitors. I certainly wish I had took the plunge
much sooner as the races I have had at VROC have been the best of my gpl
lifetime to date. No matter what speed you are there are invariably people
of similar abilities that you can race against whilst the fast boys speed
off into the distance.
Give the simpler tracks a bash first before going for the harder ones as
you will soon build your confidence up and be ready to take on the
world...... I'll be keeping an eye out for you.
Regards
Peter Hooper (Hoops on VROC)
SLG
>There will always be those people who give you a hard time if they feel you
>have messed up their race but I have been fortunate to avoid them in the
>races I have been involved in. Certainly don't let them put you off... as
>long as you are not deliberately causing problems and adhere to the
>etiquete of online racing you should be fine. I held off of going online
>for a long, long time as I believed I was simply too slow and would spoil
>things for the other competitors. I certainly wish I had took the plunge
>much sooner as the races I have had at VROC have been the best of my gpl
>lifetime to date. No matter what speed you are there are invariably people
>of similar abilities that you can race against whilst the fast boys speed
>off into the distance.
>Give the simpler tracks a bash first before going for the harder ones as
>you will soon build your confidence up and be ready to take on the
>world...... I'll be keeping an eye out for you.
>Regards
>Peter Hooper (Hoops on VROC)
>> OK, this could easily be interpreted as whinging, and my girlfriend
>> always says I'm too thin-skinned, so it may very well be, but...I guess
>> I want to know if what I encountered is typical, or unwarranted, or if
>> I'm in the wrong here and should not bother racing on-line until I can
>> drive in traffic a -whole- lot better.
>> I ventured on-line with WinVROC for the first time last night. I joined
>> a Intermediate at Spa as I feel fairly confident there. I'd been
>> practicing with a full field with reduced AI for the last two days. This
>> puts me in the middle of the pack, just to get a feel for starts. Hairy
>> business, but I've started to get a feel for it and can usually make it
>> through, provided Surtees isn't behind me. 8^)
>> The actual start went well and I managed to keep out of trouble until
>> the Masta straight. The train was running on the left and I felt I could
>> pass to the right. I pull out to the right and I'm going flat out,
>> faster than the field, and someone pulled out of the line directly in
>> front of me. No time to even get on the brakes before we collided. The
>> "gentleman" I collided with felt it necessary to insult me, and I
>> disconnected.
>> So I tried again on another server, Spa again. I announced to the others
>> that I was a newbie. I didn't even try a qualifying run, figuring I'd
>> end up at the back of the grid, safely out of harm's way. At this point,
>> they were actually quite helpful, getting me to move ahead a few feet so
>> that the race could start. "This bodes well," I thought. We start. Oddly
>> enough, I'm 1st row, outside. Again, I make it through the start. By
>> the time we're into Stavelot, I've passed several spins and crashes, and
>> seen at least one apology typed. This time I blew it, going much too
>> fast into La Source, e***ment and nervousness getting the better of
>> me. I took out another car in the process and typed a "Sorry." I was
>> informed by my victim that if I "can't keep up speed in the corners, I
>> shouldn't race." ...so I disconnected.
>> So, should I just ignore it while I improve, or should I go back to the
>> AI and GPLRank until I'm supremely competent? Am I being over-sensitive
>> here, or am I truly ruining things for others? Is there a
>> newbie-friendly arena where a beginner can get relaxed to the idea of
>> racing other human beings and not feel like he's spoiling the party?
>> Wannabe racer,
>> J. P. Hovercraft
Martyn_D
> SLG
> >JP,
> >Have to say that I think you were probably a little unfortunately with your
> >first online experience as that was totally the opposite of how I found
> >things when I first went online. Maybe it was the track you chose for your
> >first attempts, personally I stuck mainly with Monza for the first couple
> >of days until I felt comfortable that I was doing all the right things in
> >the races (far easier at Monza than Spa...). I got lots of very helpful
> >advice from other drivers, especially by*** around after the race and
> >chatting before the server rolled over.
> >There will always be those people who give you a hard time if they feel you
> >have messed up their race but I have been fortunate to avoid them in the
> >races I have been involved in. Certainly don't let them put you off... as
> >long as you are not deliberately causing problems and adhere to the
> >etiquete of online racing you should be fine. I held off of going online
> >for a long, long time as I believed I was simply too slow and would spoil
> >things for the other competitors. I certainly wish I had took the plunge
> >much sooner as the races I have had at VROC have been the best of my gpl
> >lifetime to date. No matter what speed you are there are invariably people
> >of similar abilities that you can race against whilst the fast boys speed
> >off into the distance.
> >Give the simpler tracks a bash first before going for the harder ones as
> >you will soon build your confidence up and be ready to take on the
> >world...... I'll be keeping an eye out for you.
> >Regards
> >Peter Hooper (Hoops on VROC)
> >> OK, this could easily be interpreted as whinging, and my girlfriend
> >> always says I'm too thin-skinned, so it may very well be, but...I guess
> >> I want to know if what I encountered is typical, or unwarranted, or if
> >> I'm in the wrong here and should not bother racing on-line until I can
> >> drive in traffic a -whole- lot better.
> >> I ventured on-line with WinVROC for the first time last night. I joined
> >> a Intermediate at Spa as I feel fairly confident there. I'd been
> >> practicing with a full field with reduced AI for the last two days. This
> >> puts me in the middle of the pack, just to get a feel for starts. Hairy
> >> business, but I've started to get a feel for it and can usually make it
> >> through, provided Surtees isn't behind me. 8^)
> >> The actual start went well and I managed to keep out of trouble until
> >> the Masta straight. The train was running on the left and I felt I could
> >> pass to the right. I pull out to the right and I'm going flat out,
> >> faster than the field, and someone pulled out of the line directly in
> >> front of me. No time to even get on the brakes before we collided. The
> >> "gentleman" I collided with felt it necessary to insult me, and I
> >> disconnected.
> >> So I tried again on another server, Spa again. I announced to the others
> >> that I was a newbie. I didn't even try a qualifying run, figuring I'd
> >> end up at the back of the grid, safely out of harm's way. At this point,
> >> they were actually quite helpful, getting me to move ahead a few feet so
> >> that the race could start. "This bodes well," I thought. We start. Oddly
> >> enough, I'm 1st row, outside. Again, I make it through the start. By
> >> the time we're into Stavelot, I've passed several spins and crashes, and
> >> seen at least one apology typed. This time I blew it, going much too
> >> fast into La Source, e***ment and nervousness getting the better of
> >> me. I took out another car in the process and typed a "Sorry." I was
> >> informed by my victim that if I "can't keep up speed in the corners, I
> >> shouldn't race." ...so I disconnected.
> >> So, should I just ignore it while I improve, or should I go back to the
> >> AI and GPLRank until I'm supremely competent? Am I being over-sensitive
> >> here, or am I truly ruining things for others? Is there a
> >> newbie-friendly arena where a beginner can get relaxed to the idea of
> >> racing other human beings and not feel like he's spoiling the party?
> >> Wannabe racer,
> >> J. P. Hovercraft
> (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
> and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
> due to too many English classes/teachers)
J. P. Hovercraft
> Ohhhh . . . too close . . . oh that dude just hit the rail . . . here
> he comes . . . doh! Just missed him . . . what's that noise? . . BRM
> 8-o-clock! . . more power!!! Ok mind make Masta work for me . . . turn
> in and now back . . . no wait . . . now? . . NO! Crap! *#^%$%^* . . .
> sry! Shift+R . . . remember cold tires . . . Yeah I am only 34 seconds
> behind the last guy! :-O
> Ah it is just too fun.
> SLG
> (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
> and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
> due to too many English classes/teachers)
J. P. Hovercraft
> >Thank you, one and all, for support and sage advice. One expects trash talk
> >and insults playing Quake. I really didn't expect to run into it on VROC.
> >Naieve, perhaps...
> J.P.,
> Yeah get some, but much less than other racing games, IMO.
> Here's another site for anyone who is starting out in online GPL
> racing (strongly suggested reading for our GPLWS league). Pay
> attention to it and you'll be a good, clean driver.
> Recommended Driver Behaviour
> a resource of the
> Grand Prix Legends Australian Championship
> by Phillip McNelley
> http://www.powerup.com.au/~philmak/gplac/rec_driver_beh.htm
> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
You realize, of course, she *has* to go...<g>
Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPL hcp. +52.52
Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Jan.
=---
Halleluja!!!
Read this carefully! A lot of T1 crashes would have been avoided if
everybody acted the way GraDee described in his posting.
The guys in front of you has had a better qual than you. In most cases that
is because they are a better driver than you. If you, by a struck of luck,
manage to pass these guys before T1, they'll probably pass you later on,
anyhow. Don't risk a crash by passing before T1. Side by side into T1 is a
certain way to disaster. Keep your position, fall into the line. After a
couple of laps, you may attempt overtaking, after studying the line and
skill of the driver in front of you. Then enjoy a good race.
Happy GPL-ing.
Jon Andersen
Learn from the experience. When following another car closely, brake earlier
that you normally would have. Learn the other guys braking points. Until
then: brake earlier.
If you realize that a collision is about to happen, you really should try to
get off the track instead of crashing into your opponent. That way only one
man's race is ruined, not two.
Jon Andersen