Gotta disagree there. Sega GT 2002 has some of the worst physics currently
going around. The cars handle like ballons and are less fun than driving a
nail. Turning off traction control and ABS actually makes the physics feel
worse. Ugh! Even Gran Turismo 3 is better.
Again, agree on the first. As to PGR, are you serious???
No, you can turn off TC and anti-skid, but ABS is always on.
SegaGT2002: Far, far better than the original SegaGT. But in the
end, I found it nowhere near as engrossing as GT3. Also, the
power-on loss of traction in Sega is bizarre. Get the wheels
spinning, lay off the throttle, and they continue to spin for
seconds. Almost impossible to get it to handle once tires are
slightly worn.
I'm still happy with GT3's handling. Sure, I'd like to turn off
ABS. Also, top speeds (and probably accel) are unrealistic for
the power of a given vehicle. Surprising that they would falter
on something so easy to model.
PGR has very obvious arcadiness, however its driving/physics model is far
more involving and challenging than the likes of SegaGT2K2 and GT3. Those
games are strictly for people who like looking at cars rather than driving
them.
> Ferrari F355 for the Dreamcast.
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it is better to have liver and potatoes, than not to have liver at all.
Too bad about the dead zone on the PS2. I used a $50 TM Ferrari wheel on
the DC that had nice spring tension and it was surprisingly good.
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Joe M.
> I loved F355 in the arcade, but the deadzone on the PS2 version is
horrible,
> so bad I took it back for a refund. (Logitech FF wheel)
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> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spam>
> > > But what about Gran Turismo 3? Marvellous sounds and graphics. Great
> > > tutorials when obtaining racing licenses. I just can't stop playing
it.
> > > The physics feels quite good too... Or?
> > The big draw back for me is permanent anti-lock brakes. You drive a 700
> HP
> > car and cannot lock the wheels. I do like the overall feel. I also
rate
> > F355 higher as a RACING experience, the AI is challenging and fairly
> human.
> > GT3 has hot lapping bots that don't even care if you're in the way, they
> > simply drive through you.
> > --
> > Joe M.
Might be time to run instead of drive. :0)
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Joe M.
Aren't the cars in PGR far too grippy? And, perhaps conversely,
too easy to get into lurid tailslides?
Yes, I like looking at the car models in GT3. But I far more
enjoy endless hotlapping of them.
LOL!!!
Talk about an oxymoron. Anyway, I find PGR to be very nice. I do prefer the
handling over GT3. Yes you can do massive powerslides (hell it's the object
of the game), but you can certainly do the same things in real life
Ferraris, Porsches etc! Of all the driving games on the XBOX, PGR has the
best feel. I wish WOO-sprintcars would come out on the xbox though.
massivechicken
> In GT3, you can turn off traction control and ABS from the car setup
> screens.
> Totally agree about the dumb AI though.
> The physics are pretty good and you can have some great races, but the
> physics are not 100% convincing.
In my opinion, console racers are performing much better than the
PC versions since the hardware is known and it is possible to
push the last little bits out of it. No lockups... :)
So I should stick to the arcade then... I was thinking about buying
F355,
but I bought Pro Evolution Soccer 2 instead... :\
Larry
> Might be time to run instead of drive. :0)
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> Joe M.
Larry
> In my opinion, console racers are performing much better than the
> PC versions since the hardware is known and it is possible to
> push the last little bits out of it. No lockups... :)
>>>Which console racer comes the closest to having sim quality physics ?
>>Ferrari F355 for the Dreamcast.
> WRC II Extreme deserves a mention as well.
