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UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

Jan Loebzie

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Jan Loebzie » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:14:40



Well the *are* supporting TCP, just not over the Internet (at least
not officially). Just like GP3.

Jan

Jan Loebzie

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Jan Loebzie » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:13:09

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:16:09 GMT, "Stephen Smith"


>Okay, then, what developer in his or her right mind would shoot themselves
>in the head by agreeing to publish a game without multiplayer capability?

Because the FIA license is more attractive to the majority of
potential customers than online multiplay? Which is a niche in
an already niche market itself (the market for somewhat realistic
racing sims, that is).

Jan

Richard

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Richard » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:18:20

?  There's a logical

A perfect description of the FIA!  ;-)

ZZ

Greg Cisk

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:52:58


I thought it did and was going to try it soon.

I think the so called FIA ban on multiplay is bogus (non existent).

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daxe

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by daxe » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:20:45

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:16:09 GMT, "Stephen Smith"


>Okay, then, what developer in his or her right mind would shoot themselves
>in the head by agreeing to publish a game without multiplayer capability?

Others are answering more eloquently than I with a variety of
explanations, but the one that I would have given is that the FIA
license is more important to them than online multiplayer.  There are
plenty of people who will NEVER play online against other people.  I
would wager to say that there are actually fewer people who would use
it than not.

The FIA, from what little I understand of it, seems to be more into
throwing its weight around and making money than doing things for the
benefit of the fans.  They impress me as total control freaks.  They
can control what happens in an offline situation, how the cars and AI
drivers behave, what the simulated awards cermonies and awards look
like, etc.  Online racing leads to all kinds of subcultures and
cottage industries, none of which they can control or profit from, so
in their eyes, that is likely unacceptable.

~daxe

Ed Solhei

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Ed Solhei » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:42:18

"Jan Loebzien":

Thanks!

You just saved me 2hrs of download time for the demo (when it arrives) and
$40 on a the game.

I've said this befoe and i'll say it again:

No internet multiplayer = no sale to this driver!

Ed_

"Go WSC!"

Txl

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Txl » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:07:55

I always knew these game engineer were ***!



Jan Loebzie

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Jan Loebzie » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:25:27


>You just saved me 2hrs of download time for the demo (when it arrives) and
>$40 on a the game.

You're welcome. :-)
Although I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't even try the
demo, just to *see* what the fuss is all about. Because, judging by
the screenshots it going to *look* really great, and in the preview
they're claiming they saw sustained 60fps on a PIII700 at 1024, no
AI cars though.

Jan

Stephen Smit

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Stephen Smit » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:15:29

Daxe,

Mebbe so, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it's not the FIA (a sporting
body headed, ATM, by Max Mosely, son of Britain's infamous Nazi sympathizer,
and one of March's founders) that's throwing its weight around--in this
instance--but Bernie Ecclestone's various commercial groups, like FOCA (the
Formula One Constructors Association).  Make my day.

For what it's worth, a Formula One license is probably worth more than a
license to race online, but a *** auto racing sim without a healthy
online component is DOA; they might as well not bother.

--Steve


> On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:16:09 GMT, "Stephen Smith"

> >Okay, then, what developer in his or her right mind would shoot
themselves
> >in the head by agreeing to publish a game without multiplayer capability?

> Others are answering more eloquently than I with a variety of
> explanations, but the one that I would have given is that the FIA
> license is more important to them than online multiplayer.  There are
> plenty of people who will NEVER play online against other people.  I
> would wager to say that there are actually fewer people who would use
> it than not.

> >If the oil companies demanded a royalty for using their gasoline, would
> >automakers manufacture cars without fuel tanks?  There's a logical
> >disconnect here somewhere....

> The FIA, from what little I understand of it, seems to be more into
> throwing its weight around and making money than doing things for the
> benefit of the fans.  They impress me as total control freaks.  They
> can control what happens in an offline situation, how the cars and AI
> drivers behave, what the simulated awards cermonies and awards look
> like, etc.  Online racing leads to all kinds of subcultures and
> cottage industries, none of which they can control or profit from, so
> in their eyes, that is likely unacceptable.

> ~daxe

Stephen Smit

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Stephen Smit » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:30:52

Jan,

All of UbiSoft's games have *looked* great.  Gfx has never been their
problem.

--Steve



> >You just saved me 2hrs of download time for the demo (when it arrives)
and
> >$40 on a the game.

> You're welcome. :-)
> Although I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't even try the
> demo, just to *see* what the fuss is all about. Because, judging by
> the screenshots it going to *look* really great, and in the preview
> they're claiming they saw sustained 60fps on a PIII700 at 1024, no
> AI cars though.

> Jan

jbo..

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by jbo.. » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:32:07




> >You just saved me 2hrs of download time for the demo (when it
arrives) and
> >$40 on a the game.

> You're welcome. :-)
> Although I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't even try the
> demo, just to *see* what the fuss is all about. Because, judging by
> the screenshots it going to *look* really great, and in the preview
> they're claiming they saw sustained 60fps on a PIII700 at 1024, no
> AI cars though.

F1WGP from Lankhor LOOKED great, too, from a visual standpoint -- and
my guess is that UbiSoft's title will be going head-to-head with F1WGP
and Warm Up!, rather than GPL and F1CS2K.  Time will tell, though.

-- JB

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ymenar

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by ymenar » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:24:46


can't..

That's about it, most of their employees have limited knowledge of
motorsports (compared to per example Papyrus and other developers).  It's a
game factory, so they just jump from title to title, they aren't focused on
doing *only* racing games.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Ed Solhei

UbiSoft's new F1 sim - things that make you go hmmm ...

by Ed Solhei » Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:10:08



> >You just saved me 2hrs of download time for the demo (when it arrives)
and
> >$40 on a the game.

> You're welcome. :-)
> Although I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't even try the
> demo, just to *see* what the fuss is all about. Because, judging by
> the screenshots it going to *look* really great, and in the preview
> they're claiming they saw sustained 60fps on a PIII700 at 1024, no
> AI cars though.

'Looks' dont matter much to me if I cant race it - so why bother the d/l.

The *first* thing I look for in any game I buy, is multiplayer capabilities.
If they are lacking - my interrest is gone.

What I cannot understand *at all* is why on earth anyone would release a
game without 'net-play in this century!?!? I seriously dont think I've
really raced AI's - since back in the NASCAR 1 days...  and even then I'd
fork out $$$ to race online on 'Hawaii'.  Although it cost me *alot* of
money [Int. calls to the U.S] - it got me hooked right away.

Ed_


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