rec.autos.simulators

by **The Other Larr** » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 04:37:37

I have two Windows XP boot partitions on my system. One for general apps,
the other strictly for ***.

The one for General Apps has everything and anything enabled, installed,
protected, etc...

The *** partition has nothing installed that's not necessary to make it
run. No AV. No Keyboard/Mouse drivers (I just let it use the generic
built-in). All external hardware (scanners, printers, etc...) disabled in
the device manager.

Works for me :)

-Larry

> I completely got rid of anti virus protection on my game computer. Got
tired
> of it freezing up windows when it wanted to update and I told it to wait 1
> day. Of course I scan any files I download over my home network with av
> software that is on a different computer. Never had norton find a virus in
3
> years. Do not miss it at all.

> I consider Virus Programs to be one of the biggest
> > culprits in screwing up a game, right from the start. Why anyone in
their
> > right mind would have a Virus Program running constantly in the
background
> > has always escaped me. Why not turn the blasted thing off and when you
> want
> > to check a file before it comes in, turn it on. (Virus alerts are 90%
> bogus
> > and software virus companies just want to scare the public so that the
> > public spends more money on virus-prevention software.)

> > So keep your PC tuned, as you would your car or your body or mind, stop
> > running Virus Programs in the background (and everything else, too), and
> > your problems will go away.

by **GMpartsgu** » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 05:57:23

GTA3
NR2002
Rally Trophy
N4
Midtown Madness2
Ghost Recon
Black and White
N3
N3 expansion pack
Re-Volt
Half Life
HL: Opp Force
NFS:PU
Combat Flight Sim 2
Interstate 76
I76 Nitro Pack
Fly II (beta 1)
Allegiance (beta 0)
Return to Wolfenstein
The Sims
GPL
Deus-Ex
Indy Jones/ Infernal Machine
Pro Pinball: Timeshock
Pro Pinball: BRUSA
Fly
Fly II (gold final version)
Homeworld
Motocross Madness 2
Nascar Legends
Rainbow Six
R6: Eagle Watch
Nascar 99
Sim City 3000
N1

All these titles ran fine on my systems over the years, after stock
installations.
Your question is slightly loaded as everyones computer is different. Thats
why programers add in graphic and sound options. Also, seeing how you can
buy a new computer from just about anybody these days with not much less
than a 2gig setup, im not quite sure where "ludicrous" is.
My system,
P4 1.8gig w/ Asus P4T mobo (275 bucks)
512mb ramdac (120 bucks)
GeForce 3 (Asus V8200) (150 bucks)
Monster MX300 sound (now worthless)
Win98

Bang for the buck..Priceless :)

by **pjgt..** » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 20:21:35

> OK. Interesting question time.

> When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out
> of
> the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or
> sound
> options? Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX, then
> we
> shouldn't have to change anything. Those with ludicrously high
> performance
> PCs need not reply.

Pretty much every game I've bought works straight away out of the box.

I think its a just a matter of keeping your pc in good condition.

EG: running scandisk and defrag every now and again, keeping your drivers
fairly up to date, deleting stuff you don't need, and running the bare
minimum programs required at all times.

8-)

*Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

by **Eldre** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 05:03:10

writes:

YOu also have to worry about conflicts with other games. I did some computer
work for a guy - he needed to upgrade his system to run JetFighter 4. I loaded
it on my system just to see what it was like. After I loaded it and played for
a while, I checked something later in N2002 for the RASCAR race. N2002
wouldn't run. By that time, I'd forgotten that I'd even *loaded* JF4. When I
remembered, I un-installed it. Then N2002 worked fine. Not sure exactly what
the conflict was, but on my system those two don't play nicely together...

Eldred
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by **Ryan Mitchle** » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 19:05:15

Viper Racing was brilliant. Even the demo was extremely polished and ran at
a hugely high frame rate on my (at the time) outdated system.

Powerslide was also quite ahead of other games in terms of raw framerates,
but I guess that's a different topic . . .

Ryan

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by **The Other Larr** » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 05:16:08

I completely agree. I still play Viper Racing to this very day.

It's a damned shame we can't get them to release a sequel.

I'm sure Sierra has something to do with that:(

-Larry

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by **Chri** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 10:48:03

Athlon 750Mhz, 128MB RAM, Sparkle Geforce 2. I win.

Chris

by **Chri** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 10:56:31

This is basically the gist of it. I currently have two games on my system
(because of the hassle), one is Civ3 (ran OK), but the other is GTA3 which
took me a couple of hours to get right before it was playable. I haven't
had to run a game in 640x480 for a very long time and actually find it quite
offensive.

But how realistic is it to keep a computer completely bare of other
software? Some of us can't afford to run three different PCs just to
internet and home office stuff on one and games on the others.

I have to confess though, never had a single problem with Viper Racing,
still the greatest sim ever produced (knocks GPL into second, GP3 third).

Chris

> writes:

> >Pretty much every game I've bought works straight away out of the box.

> >I think its a just a matter of keeping your pc in good condition.

> YOu also have to worry about conflicts with other games. I did some
computer
> work for a guy - he needed to upgrade his system to run JetFighter 4. I
loaded
> it on my system just to see what it was like. After I loaded it and
played for
> a while, I checked something later in N2002 for the RASCAR race. N2002
> wouldn't run. By that time, I'd forgotten that I'd even *loaded* JF4.
When I
> remembered, I un-installed it. Then N2002 worked fine. Not sure exactly
what
> the conflict was, but on my system those two don't play nicely together...

> Eldred
> --
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...

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by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 20:31:49

> But how realistic is it to keep a computer completely bare of other
> software? Some of us can't afford to run three different PCs just to
> internet and home office stuff on one and games on the others.

Why? Get a second hard disk and install Linux. Windows is for
games[1], Linux is for productivity ;-)

Regards,

[1] even less nowadays now that wine runs buckets of native
windows games.

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by **Timothy R Paulli** » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 00:02:23

Celeron 500mhz, 192 mb RAM, Verto TNT 32mb
I win unfortunally.

Tim

--
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good time!

> Athlon 750Mhz, 128MB RAM, Sparkle Geforce 2. I win.

> Chris

> > > OK. Interesting question time.

> > > When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out
> of
> > > the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or
> > sound
> > > options?

> > most games require this..as the settings are usually default for the
> lowest
> > common machine...16bit 640x480 or 800x600 - even those games that
> > have automatic settings based on your hardware need playing with
sometimes
> > - in my case, every time

> > >Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX, then we
> > > shouldn't have to change anything.

> > oh yeah, because all PC's have exactly the same hardware in them
> > and all games are programmed by the same small group of guys
> > in Japan somewhere

> > Those with ludicrously high performance
> > > PCs need not reply.

> > athlon 1.2ghz
> > 512mb
> > leadtek gf3 ti200

> > crappy enough ?

by **Joe6** » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 01:42:58

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:54:27 +0000 (UTC), "Chris"

>When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out of
>the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or sound
>options?

Every time I buy a console game. Was that a trick question? ;-)

by **Eldre** » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 02:18:18

>But how realistic is it to keep a computer completely bare of other
>software? Some of us can't afford to run three different PCs just to
>internet and home office stuff on one and games on the others.

It *isn't* realistic, but that's what many expect that we do. Some also expect
you to be happy with 'pausing' races your're running for days on end, as
opposed to being to SAVE the f'king thing... :(

Eldred
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