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When was the last time...

Chri

When was the last time...

by Chri » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:54:27

OK.  Interesting question time.

When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out of
the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or sound
options?  Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX, then we
shouldn't have to change anything.  Those with ludicrously high performance
PCs need not reply.

Chris

Alan Bernard

When was the last time...

by Alan Bernard » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:50:07

I hate to say this, but nearly every game I get I can play straight out of
the box.  F12002, N2002, Never Winter Nights, etc.

I do believe that if folks kept their system up to speed and kept a good
watch on it and did the basic things (defrag, run End It All, stay away from
anything related to Norton's or any other Virus program), then they'd have
no problem.

To tell you the truth, I can't remember the last time a game didn't work out
of the box.  I might have to go back to Diablo II, which had a copy
protection problem which prevented the game from knowing that the CD was in
the drive, fixed finally by updating my sound-card drivers.

Not to say some games aren't crappy, system hogs that need some PC tinkering
to get them to work as you'd like them (FPS, mainly).  But overall I've had
little if any problem.  I consider Virus Programs to be one of the biggest
culprits in screwing up a game, right from the start.  Why anyone in their
right mind would have a Virus Program running constantly in the background
has always escaped me.  Why not turn the blasted thing off and when you want
to check a file before it comes in, turn it on.  (Virus alerts are 90% bogus
and software virus companies just want to scare the public so that the
public spends more money on virus-prevention software.)

So keep your PC tuned, as you would your car or your body or mind, stop
running Virus Programs in the background (and everything else, too), and
your problems will go away.

Oh well...

Alanb

Mike Beaucham

When was the last time...

by Mike Beaucham » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:12:55

I can't think of a time when a game HASN'T worked on my PC really. Aside,
from trying to play really old DOS games... but I can still get "Scorched
Earth" to work in XP, so that's all that really matters.

FWIW, I never run virus programs.. because I know who emails me, and I know
not to open attachments. I go to Windows Update occasionally, just to keep
things up to date, same with Vid card drivers. and I have nothing running in
my task bar... whenever a program puts something in my task bar (Winamp
Agent, ICQ whatever, etc..) I get rid of it.

Actually.. I had a problem with Max Payne crashing at a certain level midway
through the game. So I checked out the ATI site, and noticed there were new
drivers posted.. problem solved. That was the last time I've had problems.

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com


Biz

When was the last time...

by Biz » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:40:03

Almost every game I've ever bought since the DOS days.  I'm running a PIII 500 with 256MB RAM and an
GF2MX400 card, nothing fancy or high performance at all.
--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash


Papa Lazaro

When was the last time...

by Papa Lazaro » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:27:34

most games require this..as the settings are usually default for the lowest
common machine...16bit 640x480 or 800x600 - even those games that
have automatic settings based on your hardware need playing with sometimes
- in my case, every time

oh yeah, because all PC's have exactly the same hardware in them
and all games are programmed by the same small group of guys
in Japan somewhere

 Those with ludicrously high performance

athlon 1.2ghz
512mb
leadtek gf3 ti200

crappy enough ?

Don Burnett

When was the last time...

by Don Burnett » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:27:28

Most play very well for me out of the box as well, I use Win XP Home and I
also have Norton System Works 2002 installed. I do let autoprotect run in
the background, however I disable the anti-virus any time I am installing
games.

Don Burnette


> I hate to say this, but nearly every game I get I can play straight out of
> the box.  F12002, N2002, Never Winter Nights, etc.

> I do believe that if folks kept their system up to speed and kept a good
> watch on it and did the basic things (defrag, run End It All, stay away
from
> anything related to Norton's or any other Virus program), then they'd have
> no problem.

> To tell you the truth, I can't remember the last time a game didn't work
out
> of the box.  I might have to go back to Diablo II, which had a copy
> protection problem which prevented the game from knowing that the CD was
in
> the drive, fixed finally by updating my sound-card drivers.

> Not to say some games aren't crappy, system hogs that need some PC
tinkering
> to get them to work as you'd like them (FPS, mainly).  But overall I've
had
> little if any problem.  I consider Virus Programs to be one of the biggest
> culprits in screwing up a game, right from the start.  Why anyone in their
> right mind would have a Virus Program running constantly in the background
> has always escaped me.  Why not turn the blasted thing off and when you
want
> to check a file before it comes in, turn it on.  (Virus alerts are 90%
bogus
> and software virus companies just want to scare the public so that the
> public spends more money on virus-prevention software.)

> So keep your PC tuned, as you would your car or your body or mind, stop
> running Virus Programs in the background (and everything else, too), and
> your problems will go away.

> Oh well...

> Alanb


> > OK.  Interesting question time.

> > When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out
of
> > the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or
> sound
> > options?  Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX, then
we
> > shouldn't have to change anything.  Those with ludicrously high
> performance
> > PCs need not reply.

> > Chris

Alan Bernard

When was the last time...

by Alan Bernard » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:18:15

I guess we all have different experiences-- that's what makes us all
different.  But Systems Works hosed my system.  Somehow it altered my
boot.ini file and I couldn't even start my machine (XP Pro).  I had to run a
start-up disk for Win98 and edit out what was in the boot.ini file.  It was
a hassle, to say the least.  Norton's and I do not get along.  I stay away
from that company.  But with most people's general ignorance of how to
properly configure a PC, it's no wonder they have problems with games and
such.

Alanb


> Most play very well for me out of the box as well, I use Win XP Home and I
> also have Norton System Works 2002 installed. I do let autoprotect run in
> the background, however I disable the anti-virus any time I am installing
> games.

> Don Burnette



> > I hate to say this, but nearly every game I get I can play straight out
of
> > the box.  F12002, N2002, Never Winter Nights, etc.

> > I do believe that if folks kept their system up to speed and kept a good
> > watch on it and did the basic things (defrag, run End It All, stay away
> from
> > anything related to Norton's or any other Virus program), then they'd
have
> > no problem.

> > To tell you the truth, I can't remember the last time a game didn't work
> out
> > of the box.  I might have to go back to Diablo II, which had a copy
> > protection problem which prevented the game from knowing that the CD was
> in
> > the drive, fixed finally by updating my sound-card drivers.

> > Not to say some games aren't crappy, system hogs that need some PC
> tinkering
> > to get them to work as you'd like them (FPS, mainly).  But overall I've
> had
> > little if any problem.  I consider Virus Programs to be one of the
biggest
> > culprits in screwing up a game, right from the start.  Why anyone in
their
> > right mind would have a Virus Program running constantly in the
background
> > has always escaped me.  Why not turn the blasted thing off and when you
> want
> > to check a file before it comes in, turn it on.  (Virus alerts are 90%
> bogus
> > and software virus companies just want to scare the public so that the
> > public spends more money on virus-prevention software.)

> > So keep your PC tuned, as you would your car or your body or mind, stop
> > running Virus Programs in the background (and everything else, too), and
> > your problems will go away.

> > Oh well...

> > Alanb


> > > OK.  Interesting question time.

> > > When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out
> of
> > > the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or
> > sound
> > > options?  Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX,
then
> we
> > > shouldn't have to change anything.  Those with ludicrously high
> > performance
> > > PCs need not reply.

> > > Chris

Haqsa

When was the last time...

by Haqsa » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:30:28


All my Xbox games worked straight out of the box.  ;o)

I definitely do not have a ludicrously high performance PC.

Joachim Trens

When was the last time...

by Joachim Trens » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:00:07

N2002 a few months ago.

Achim

Jan Verschuere

When was the last time...

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:26:21

Turning the question around makes it easier to answer. In my *** "memory"
those which didn't work "out of the box"  were GP3, because of it's poor V2
support and F1 2001, because it didn't support the V3 card I was using at
the time (which wasn't mentioned on the packaging).

Jan./ still bitter.
=---

Gerry Aitke

When was the last time...

by Gerry Aitke » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:27:49

99% of game run out of the box for me. Of the ones that don't, Rally
Trophy, with it's***poor controller configuration, is one that comes
immediately to mind!

Gerry


> OK.  Interesting question time.

> When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out of
> the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or sound
> options?  Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX, then we
> shouldn't have to change anything.  Those with ludicrously high performance
> PCs need not reply.

> Chris

Tim

When was the last time...

by Tim » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:28:58

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:54:27 +0000 (UTC), "Chris"


>OK.  Interesting question time.

>When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out of
>the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or sound
>options?  Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX, then we
>shouldn't have to change anything.  Those with ludicrously high performance
>PCs need not reply.

I've been computer *** since the Atari 800/C64 days, and I can
count on one hand the games that wouldn't run out of the box.
Of those, four were DOS games that needed 600K+ of conventional
memory, and I had to create boot disks for them... Falcon 3 and Wings
Of Glory come to mind.

The only "modern" game I ever had that wouldn't run at all without a
patch was Flight Unlimited III. It had a problem with NVidia cards and
needed to be patched before it would run.

The three I've cited are all flight sims... how about that.
Maybe if you ask this question in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim
you'll get a better discussion.

jon

When was the last time...

by jon » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:49:38

I completely got rid of anti virus protection on my game computer. Got tired
of it freezing up windows when it wanted to update and I told it to wait 1
day. Of course I scan any files I download over my home network with av
software that is on a different computer. Never had norton find a virus in 3
years. Do not miss it at all.


I consider Virus Programs to be one of the biggest

Eldre

When was the last time...

by Eldre » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 02:03:39



>OK.  Interesting question time.

>When was the last time that anyone had a game that worked straight out of
>the box, i.e. didn't require any downloads or fiddling with graphic or sound
>options?  Theoretically, if we all have the latest drivers for DX, then we
>shouldn't have to change anything.  Those with ludicrously high performance
>PCs need not reply.

You mean fiddling with graphic and sound options to get it to work at ALL?
I've done some tweaking to improve FPS, but the only games I've had problems
RUNNING were F1 2001(controller issues), MTBR(controller issues), and the
LeMans demo(blank screen).
Diablo II, Star Wars GB, Civ III all ran fine out of the box.

Eldred
--
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...

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The Other Larr

When was the last time...

by The Other Larr » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 04:35:30

Viper Racing worked well right out of the box.

-Larry



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