rec.autos.simulators

> Um... are you sure you're running the 3Dfx version?

> --
> Eric T. Busch

> >I tested the GPL demo with anticipation, just to be gravely
> >dissapointed. With my P120/32MB/Monster3D even with all the details
> >removed it runs maybe 5 fps. This seems like really sloppy
> >optimization, since the slowness is positively not with the graphics,
> >and there aren't even other cars on the track.

> >>I tested the GPL demo with anticipation, just to be gravely
> >>dissapointed. With my P120/32MB/Monster3D even with all the details
> >>removed it runs maybe 5 fps. This seems like really sloppy
> >>optimization, since the slowness is positively not with the graphics,
> >>and there aren't even other cars on the track.

> >>When are we getting a better optimized demo for those people who don't
> >>have a P2/330 machine with gazillion megs of RAM? I know my specs are
> >>somewhat under the requirements, but a machine that can run other
> >>racing-sims fine with full detail shouldn't be so slow.
> >>-
> >>"If the meaning of life was printed in a book, someone
> >> would use it to keep the window open."

> >How do you know the demo is poorly optimized?  "Why, because it
> >doesn't run well on your machine."  What utter crap. That is no basis
> >to conclude that the demo is poorly optimized. Without knowing what
> >the demo is supposed to do and without having access to the source
> >code I would think it impossible to say if the demo is poorly
> >optimized.

> >My point: Just because GPL runs "slowly" on your machine, ( or for
> >that matter, any machine) does not mean the engineers did a sloppy
> >job.  Man, I had shit like this. Everytime a new sim is released I
> >hear it. (I guess I just need to just take a deep breath - sorry
> >everyone.)

> >Mike

> Not just on his machine, runs like ***on mine too

> > >>I tested the GPL demo with anticipation, just to be gravely
> > >>dissapointed. With my P120/32MB/Monster3D even with all the details
> > >>removed it runs maybe 5 fps. This seems like really sloppy
> > >>optimization, since the slowness is positively not with the graphics,
> > >>and there aren't even other cars on the track.

> > >>When are we getting a better optimized demo for those people who don't
> > >>have a P2/330 machine with gazillion megs of RAM? I know my specs are
> > >>somewhat under the requirements, but a machine that can run other
> > >>racing-sims fine with full detail shouldn't be so slow.
> > >>-
> > >>"If the meaning of life was printed in a book, someone
> > >> would use it to keep the window open."

> > >How do you know the demo is poorly optimized?  "Why, because it
> > >doesn't run well on your machine."  What utter crap. That is no basis
> > >to conclude that the demo is poorly optimized. Without knowing what
> > >the demo is supposed to do and without having access to the source
> > >code I would think it impossible to say if the demo is poorly
> > >optimized.

> > >My point: Just because GPL runs "slowly" on your machine, ( or for
> > >that matter, any machine) does not mean the engineers did a sloppy
> > >job.  Man, I had shit like this. Everytime a new sim is released I
> > >hear it. (I guess I just need to just take a deep breath - sorry
> > >everyone.)

> > >Mike

> > Not just on his machine, runs like ***on mine too

>    Yeah, my 286 with the super doopa ISA SVGA card can't even get this
> thing up to speed. Any clues? I even put an extra 256k simm in the other
> day. What a shock!

> You guys that are complaining about slow frame rates. Is it possible that
> you are running on a packard bell  or other substandard machine with no
> external cache? Or even more likely, your computer is not optimized so
> great. Maybe if you don't get all that deep with your own system, you should
> have a buddy come over and straighten it out somewhat. You should be able to
> get better framerates than 5 even with a P120 (w/3dfx)

> this isn't meant to be a flame towards anyone, just a suggestion to those
> non geeks who don't push the limits of their own machine for fear and
> non-knowledge of all the effects.  ie -  overclocking , etc.

> Mike Lewis

>But I noticed that there is no difference in framerate level if I go with
>full details or with no details at all... I tried to switch to "Software"
>and then back to "3dfx" - no difference in framerate. Looks like my 3dfx
>card doesn't want to work in the game... :)  (though, F1RS runs great on my
>system..).

>Also I noticed that sometimes in the replay mode graphics suddenly runs
>smoothly ! But next time it's slow again... That happens in the replay, but
>never in the***pit...

>Dmitry

>>I tested the GPL demo with anticipation, just to be gravely
>>dissapointed. With my P120/32MB/Monster3D even with all the details
>>removed it runs maybe 5 fps. This seems like really sloppy
>>optimization, since the slowness is positively not with the graphics,
>>and there aren't even other cars on the track.

>>When are we getting a better optimized demo for those people who don't
>>have a P2/330 machine with gazillion megs of RAM? I know my specs are
>>somewhat under the requirements, but a machine that can run other
>>racing-sims fine with full detail shouldn't be so slow.
>>-
>>"If the meaning of life was printed in a book, someone
>> would use it to keep the window open."

> hi
> I agree I have a P90 with one
> of those 'overdrive' chips in it
> which is a p150 o/c to 166 and i
> am happy with my 3dfx card and GPL.
> i say to all those people who are unhappy
> with GPL to learn about your pc's because it is not gonna
> change for the near future.
> I hate to talk this stuff because GPL
> is so good and racing is what we should talk of
> not dumb pc configs.
> Mark

> > You guys that are complaining about slow frame rates. Is it possible that
> > you are running on a packard bell  or other substandard machine with no
> > external cache? Or even more likely, your computer is not optimized so
> > great. Maybe if you don't get all that deep with your own system, you should
> > have a buddy come over and straighten it out somewhat. You should be able to
> > get better framerates than 5 even with a P120 (w/3dfx)

> > this isn't meant to be a flame towards anyone, just a suggestion to those
> > non geeks who don't push the limits of their own machine for fear and
> > non-knowledge of all the effects.  ie -  overclocking , etc.

> > Mike Lewis

> Pete

> >  Sorry, my DS II with 32 megs of edo and P200mmx runs the GPL demo very
> >very smoothly...
> >dave henrie