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by **Race15** » Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:29:39

From the Indy GP notes...

Kicking with both feet: USGP pole sitter Rubens Barrichello said one of the
reasons hes getting more competitive with teammate Michael Schumacher is
because he now can brake with either foot.

It is just like a soccer player who can control the ball with either foot,
Barrichello said.

Ive been driving a little bit (with) my left foot more since the
beginning of the season, he said. But Im naturally a right-footer, so
obviously Im kicking with both feet right now, and the driver who kicks with
both can do it better. Im doing it with both.

I have just got better as the season progressed

by **Dan_Leac** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:16:02

Thats why MS is so fast. He controls the car like a gpl alien, accellerate
while braking and turning to rotate the car.

by **Mike Beaucham** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:40:58

I saw something last year comparing MS to RB, where they showed their
entrance ane exit speeds into certain corners, and MS was considerably
faster on all fronts and smoother because of left-foot braking. But,

I don't know exactly if I would compare MS to a GPL alien. I've seen some
GPL "hotlaps", and they do a lot of things I can't picture MS doing. I also
don't think MS is taking advantage and finding flaws in a fairly rudimentary
physics model. MS also has to deal with tire wear..

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> Thats why MS is so fast. He controls the car like a gpl alien, accellerate
> while braking and turning to rotate the car.

> > From the Indy GP notes...

> > Kicking with both feet: USGP pole sitter Rubens Barrichello said one of
> > the
> > reasons he's getting more competitive with teammate Michael Schumacher
is
> > because he now can brake with either foot.

> > It is just like a soccer player who can control the ball with either
foot,
> > Barrichello said.

> > "I've been driving a little bit (with) my left foot more since the
> > beginning of the season," he said. "But I'm naturally a right-footer, so
> > obviously I'm kicking with both feet right now, and the driver who kicks
> > with
> > both can do it better. I'm doing it with both.

> > "I have just got better as the season progressed

by **Pez** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 03:05:27

have you seen his telemetry?

pez

> Thats why MS is so fast. He controls the car like a gpl alien, accellerate
> while braking and turning to rotate the car.

> > From the Indy GP notes...

> > Kicking with both feet: USGP pole sitter Rubens Barrichello said one of
> > the
> > reasons he's getting more competitive with teammate Michael Schumacher
is
> > because he now can brake with either foot.

> > It is just like a soccer player who can control the ball with either
foot,
> > Barrichello said.

> > "I've been driving a little bit (with) my left foot more since the
> > beginning of the season," he said. "But I'm naturally a right-footer, so
> > obviously I'm kicking with both feet right now, and the driver who kicks
> > with
> > both can do it better. I'm doing it with both.

> > "I have just got better as the season progressed

by **Ian** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:22:41

> have you seen his telemetry?

> pez

It's in F1 Racing magazine September 2003. At times he's (M. Schumacher) at
65% brake and 40% throttle simultaneously. (Copse to Becketts)

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by **H_Kev5** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:34:53

Your statement is true to a point.

In the pre-race grid walk with Derek Daley, RB stated that he only
left foot brakes at 2 tracks. And at Malaysia, he only braked in turn
1 with the left foot.

He stated he was not any better off for left foot braking.

KJRacing

by **Dan Leac** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:06:40

Yeah, thats why i think he drives like a fast gpler :)

by **Pez** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:59:50

can i see?

pez

by **Joachim Trens** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:43:53

> can i see?

Hi Pez,

maybe the posting failed to appear on your newsserver, so I'm quoting it
here. Ian P pointed to it in a message posted a few hours ago in this

IanP> It's in F1 Racing magazine September 2003. At times he's
IanP> (M. Schumacher) at 65% brake and 40%
IanP> throttle simultaneously. (Copse to Becketts)

Regards

Achim

by **Dan Leac** » Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:02:00

I saw it on telly, not sure if theres a web link. Brundle talks about it all
the time

by **Byron Forbe** » Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:36:09

> > have you seen his telemetry?

> > pez

> It's in F1 Racing magazine September 2003. At times he's (M. Schumacher)
at
> 65% brake and 40% throttle simultaneously. (Copse to Becketts)

Just for a moment (which could just be a transitional thing) or for a
sustained, deliberate period?

by **Ian** » Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:13:48

> > > have you seen his telemetry?

> > > pez

> > It's in F1 Racing magazine September 2003. At times he's (M. Schumacher)
> at
> > 65% brake and 40% throttle simultaneously. (Copse to Becketts)

> Just for a moment (which could just be a transitional thing) or for a
> sustained, deliberate period?

It looks as though it's sustained. Definitely through Copse, Becketts is a
bit more transitional, but the brake is trailed off quite gently while the
throttle is pushed quite quickly (Though I slightly misread the telemetry in
the first post and it's 40% brake and throttle through the first part of
Becketts).

by **Araxe** » Sat, 26 Jun 2004 06:45:42

> From the Indy GP notes...

> Kicking with both feet: USGP pole sitter Rubens Barrichello said one of the
> reasons hes getting more competitive with teammate Michael Schumacher is
> because he now can brake with either foot.

> It is just like a soccer player who can control the ball with either foot,
> Barrichello said.

> Ive been driving a little bit (with) my left foot more since the
> beginning of the season, he said. But Im naturally a right-footer, so
> obviously Im kicking with both feet right now, and the driver who kicks with
> both can do it better. Im doing it with both.

> I have just got better as the season progressed

Is left foot breaking really that hard? I've never had a problem doing
it while placing race games on my pc. Maybe I'm just a noob, but I
couldn't live without doing left foot breaking.

by **Uwe Sch??rkam** » Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:08:15

> Is left foot breaking really that hard? I've never had a problem doing
> it while placing race games on my pc. Maybe I'm just a noob, but I
> couldn't live without doing left foot breaking.

I'm quite used to left-foot braking from racing karts and simming, but
let me tell you doing it in the family sedan is no good idea. I tried
it once for laughs and caused near-instant brake lockup, thankfully I
was on my own at the time ;-)

uwe

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by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:56:50

>> Is left foot breaking really that hard? I've never had a problem doing
>> it while placing race games on my pc. Maybe I'm just a noob, but I
>> couldn't live without doing left foot breaking.

> I'm quite used to left-foot braking from racing karts and simming, but
> let me tell you doing it in the family sedan is no good idea. I tried
> it once for laughs and caused near-instant brake lockup, thankfully I
> was on my own at the time ;-)

> uwe

I wasn't paying attention to this thread so forgive me if I repeat
somebody else's thread.
The general consensus is that left foot braking is faster/quicker.
After-all M Schumacher does it right? Most of the current F1 field
probably left foots it as well. But we shouldn't be asking if Lf is
quicker...but is LF quicker for Ruebens? I think we've seen in the last
couple of races that Ruebens is starting to challenge Michael more...so
while in theory LF wins...the comfort factor that Ruebens feels with
Right foot braking outweighs the theoretical advantage the LF gives.
Yes there is telemetry that proves MS enters corners at higher speeds
than RB, but in the race enviroment, RB is doing better with RF so theory
kinda looses to practicality. Let RB be RB and he does well. Force him
to be MS jr. and he won't.

dave henrie

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