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Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

Ben Farnema

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by Ben Farnema » Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:00:00

They do this on purpose, and it keeps a lot of suppliers in business.
Here's why -
1. Intel releases a low-end chip that fits in a standard board.
2. People figure out how to make the chip/board combo perform nearly as well
as the high-end chip/board combo.
3. Intel releases new format low-end chip with new board format.
4. People buy it.

>Why do those idiots at Intel keep releasing new types of sockets
>every day?  Don't they have anything better to do?

>rob.




>>>370-pin . . .  um, that means they'll run in a regular socket 7?

>>Nope.  It's a whole new type of socket commonly referred to as "Scoket
>>370."  You can read plenty about it at any of the major hardware sites on
>>the Web.

>>-Bill

>>--
>>Bill Mette      | "A person is smart.  People are dumb."
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Chath

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by Chath » Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Even as it prepares for the high-profile launch of the Pentium III, Intel continues to
fortify a position at the low end by accelerating price drops on existing Celerons and
pushing up the launch of a 433MHz Celeron to March, sources said. Intel told computer
manufacturers this week that the recently launched Celeron 400MHz chip will drop to around
$130 in quantities of 1,000 on Feb. 7. The new 366MHz Celeron will drop to $90, while the
333MHz Celeron will drop to $70 and the 300MHz Celeron will drop to $60.

The prices apply to the new, 370-pin versions of the Celeron, which use a socket form factor
that includes 128KB of cache on the chip. The modular versions of Celeron, in so-called
single-edge processor packages (SEPP), are priced at $140 for the 400MHz, and $100 for the
366MHz. Separately, a source said Intel will introduce the 433MHz Celeron on March 21, months
ahead of a previously planned June launch date. It will be priced at $168 for the 370-pin
socket version, and $175 for the SEPP.

The March 21 date is expected to allay concerns that launch of a new Celeron will detract
from that of new Pentium IIIs, which are scheduled for Feb. 28. Intel has called the P-III
launch the biggest in its history. A 450MHz and 500MHz are expected. A fall price sheet for
the Celeron line did not project price cuts for any Celeron chips until April 11, when the
400MHz was to drop to $185, the 366MHz to $149, the 333MHz to $105 and the 300MHz to $95.

At the January launch of the 366MHz and 400MHz Celerons, Intel acknowledged a dissatisfaction
with its low-end retail market share for Celeron, and indicated a redoubled commitment to
correcting it. An Intel spokesman would only say, "We certainly will move as aggressively as
we can in that part of the market. You will see higher speeds earlier than expected. And it's
a safe assumption that anytime you see [a company] bring out newer parts earlier, it does
affect pricing on the rest of the line."

The moves this week are clearly aimed at correcting Intel's low-end woes. One PC maker
welcomed the moves, saying his company will aggressively market Celerons. But at the same
time, he noted the market continues to be driven by K6-2. He said he's using the Celeron as a
differentiator, and said the price cuts will help reduce perceptions that it's priced higher
than non-Intel chips.

David Kar

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by David Kar » Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:00:00

370-pin . . .  um, that means they'll run in a regular socket 7?


>Even as it prepares for the high-profile launch of the Pentium III, Intel
continues to
>fortify a position at the low end by accelerating price drops on existing
Celerons and
>pushing up the launch of a 433MHz Celeron to March, sources said. Intel
told computer
>manufacturers this week that the recently launched Celeron 400MHz chip will
drop to around
>$130 in quantities of 1,000 on Feb. 7. The new 366MHz Celeron will drop to
$90, while the
>333MHz Celeron will drop to $70 and the 300MHz Celeron will drop to $60.

>The prices apply to the new, 370-pin versions of the Celeron, which use a
socket form factor
>that includes 128KB of cache on the chip. The modular versions of Celeron,
in so-called
>single-edge processor packages (SEPP), are priced at $140 for the 400MHz,
and $100 for the
>366MHz. Separately, a source said Intel will introduce the 433MHz Celeron
on March 21, months
>ahead of a previously planned June launch date. It will be priced at $168
for the 370-pin
>socket version, and $175 for the SEPP.

>The March 21 date is expected to allay concerns that launch of a new

Celeron will detract

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Bill Met

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by Bill Met » Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:00:00



>370-pin . . .  um, that means they'll run in a regular socket 7?

Nope.  It's a whole new type of socket commonly referred to as "Scoket
370."  You can read plenty about it at any of the major hardware sites on
the Web.

-Bill

--
Bill Mette      | "A person is smart.  People are dumb."
MCSNet, Chicago |                        - K MiB

rob

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by rob » Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Why do those idiots at Intel keep releasing new types of sockets
every day?  Don't they have anything better to do?

rob.




>>370-pin . . .  um, that means they'll run in a regular socket 7?

>Nope.  It's a whole new type of socket commonly referred to as "Scoket
>370."  You can read plenty about it at any of the major hardware sites on
>the Web.

>-Bill

>--
>Bill Mette      | "A person is smart.  People are dumb."
>MCSNet, Chicago |                        - K MiB


jalo

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by jalo » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00


>370-pin . . .  um, that means they'll run in a regular socket 7?

Nope, Socket 7 is a 321 pin socket. Socket 370 is new, uses the PII bus.
Doug Schneide

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by Doug Schneide » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Yeah, you're right, we should have stuck with 40 pin DIPs for CPUs.  C'mon,
guys, technology's gotta move ahead, and of course they're gonna make every
dollar they can.  As long as there are people out there like myself who will
always pay to get the next trick, they'll keep doing it.  IMHO, it's okay by me
if gems like GPL come down the pipe once in a while as a result of all this.
Just my ramblings on the topic.

            Zog


> They do this on purpose, and it keeps a lot of suppliers in business.
> Here's why -
> 1. Intel releases a low-end chip that fits in a standard board.
> 2. People figure out how to make the chip/board combo perform nearly as well
> as the high-end chip/board combo.
> 3. Intel releases new format low-end chip with new board format.
> 4. People buy it.


> >Why do those idiots at Intel keep releasing new types of sockets
> >every day?  Don't they have anything better to do?

> >rob.




> >>>370-pin . . .  um, that means they'll run in a regular socket 7?

> >>Nope.  It's a whole new type of socket commonly referred to as "Scoket
> >>370."  You can read plenty about it at any of the major hardware sites on
> >>the Web.

> >>-Bill

> >>--
> >>Bill Mette      | "A person is smart.  People are dumb."
> >>MCSNet, Chicago |                        - K MiB


Bill Met

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by Bill Met » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

  Intel has never admitted it, but the popular opinion is that when they
first started developing the PII's, they couldn't get the L2 cache to run
properly when it was part of the processor die.  This is why they invented
the Slot 1 architecture that placed the cache seperate from the CPU.  Now
that Intel has figured out how to reliably put the cache back on the CPU
die (Celeron), they're moving back to a socket architecture.  That's the
technical bit.  On the marketing side, socket 370 is yet another chance
for Intel to***AMD and Cyrix.



>Why do those idiots at Intel keep releasing new types of sockets
>every day?  Don't they have anything better to do?




>>>370-pin . . .  um, that means they'll run in a regular socket 7?

>>Nope.  It's a whole new type of socket commonly referred to as "Scoket
>>370."  You can read plenty about it at any of the major hardware sites on
>>the Web.

--
Bill Mette      | "A person is smart.  People are dumb."
MCSNet, Chicago |                        - K MiB

Larr

Intel to Slice Celerons Again, Push Up 433 Launch

by Larr » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Yeah.  Pretty soon, we'll be able to get a full set from Sears for
$19.95 :)

-Larry


> Why do those idiots at Intel keep releasing new types of sockets
> every day?  Don't they have anything better to do?


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