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Eldred
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GPL hcp. 1:35.98 minutes-GPLRank:378 as of 6/18/00

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Get him a Kart, see how fast he takes to it. :)

rms

I also picked up NFS/PU ($20 after rebate), Re-Volt ($20), and SCGT ($15).  
Wow!  What steals.  Thanks to all here who recommended these games.  I'm
having lock-up problems with SCGT right now.  Gonna try some re-installing
and twiddling to see if I can figure this out.

Thanks again everyone,

John

: If you read the wheel thread on www.nfscheats.com forum, the logitech is the
: overwhelming favorite.  I use a T2 myself, have set many world records with
: in NFS5.  Only $35 too :)

: rms

The MSFF unit in and of itself is fine. I liked it quite a bit. However the
reason
I returned it in favour of the LWFF is that I hated the so-called shift
paddles
on the MS wheel. They are in reality buttons that are embedded to the wheel
spokes (10 and 2 oclock). I found these buttons very difficult to use in
actual
race situations, and actually was hurting my wrists. The LWFF has huge
shifting paddles and is not a problem at all.

You should at least get the 1.55 patch for SCGT. Are you playing SCGT in
Glide?

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: The MSFF unit in and of itself is fine. I liked it quite a bit. However the
: reason
: I returned it in favour of the LWFF is that I hated the so-called shift
: paddles
: on the MS wheel. They are in reality buttons that are embedded to the wheel
: spokes (10 and 2 oclock). I found these buttons very difficult to use in
: actual
: race situations, and actually was hurting my wrists. The LWFF has huge
: shifting paddles and is not a problem at all.

Agreed, Greg.  I spent about thirty minutes hemming and hawing in CompUSA
over the shift paddles on these two wheels myself.  The MSFF "paddles"
are nearly impossible to hit when the wheel is cranked over too much.
The LWFF paddles are great - in position, size and feel.

: You should at least get the 1.55 patch for SCGT. Are you playing SCGT in
: Glide?

Yup - I tried the latest 1.551a patch and both D3D and Glide.  No luck.
I'm gonna try some more fiddling later today.

Thanks,

John

I don't have the MSFF wheel, but I do have the MS Precision Racing
Wheel and I find the paddles on it are pefect for me. I do have large
hands though. Are the paddles on the MSFF wheel the same as the one I
have? Thinking about getting a FF wheel so looking for pros and cons
myself. I really like the pedals on my MSPRW too and that is a major
consideration when buying a new wheel for me. Almost bought a Thrusty
wheel/pedal combo, but the pedals turned me off. Like the MSPRW a lot,
but would like FF too because GPL is too hard without any feedback.

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Nos

And the cheesy looking pedals of the LWFF are really not that bad
once you use them a little. I too thought they would be horrible, until
I actually tried them. Now I don't even notice.

That is weird. I have never had a problem with SCGT (for over a year).

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Hehe, I found that long races spent cramping my hands near the
LWFF paddles was tiring.

- Matt

: I don't have the MSFF wheel, but I do have the MS Precision Racing
: Wheel and I find the paddles on it are pefect for me. I do have large
: hands though. Are the paddles on the MSFF wheel the same as the one I
: have? Thinking about getting a FF wheel so looking for pros and cons
: myself. I really like the pedals on my MSPRW too and that is a major
: consideration when buying a new wheel for me. Almost bought a Thrusty
: wheel/pedal combo, but the pedals turned me off. Like the MSPRW a lot,
: but would like FF too because GPL is too hard without any feedback.

Hey Nos,

So far, I'm pretty disappointed with the MSFF wheel.  I've tried it
with NFS/PU and Re-Volt and it seems to suck my framerates down.  I
can't tell for sure in NFS/PU - BTW, is there a framerate counter for
NFS/PU?  I can't get FRAPS to work  - but in Re-Volt my frames go from
65-70 FPS without the wheel to 19-24 with it.  Unacceptable.

Tried going to Microsoft's online support and making a web support query
but the site wasn't accepting my Product ID #.  Yet another disappointment.
Unless there is some quick 'n easy fix, I think this wheel is going back.
To all those who recommended the LWFF, I shoulda listened.

Oh yeah, NFS/PU is a BLAST!

Thanks,

John