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NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

Marc Collin

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by Marc Collin » Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:09:26

3D Setup ran as expected...set to 32 bit 1600x1200 like I do for all ISI
stuff :)  The analyzer tested and accepted the settings.  Go into game and
everything looks worse than NT2004 at the same settings...??  Then I start
reading about this 1280x960 business and I realise that's actually what mine
is displaying.

Hey, I'm Mr. Experience with sims (I like to think), so I go into the .ini
file and manually change the videomode so it's the same as all my other ISI
sims.  Go into game.  Same shitty looking 1280x960 graphics, but with some
really scary lighting effect bugs as you round the track.

Oh well.  Is there an explanation at least?  All the older ISI stuff
worked/works perfectly at 1600x1200.

Marc

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Marc Collins

Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
to take effect. Reboot now?
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David G Fishe

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by David G Fishe » Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:59:57

Steve B. posted this the other day:
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Hit the start button on your desktop and navigate to the 3D Setup icon for
NSR.  Right click on it and choose "properties".  In the "target" line of
the shortcut dialog box, add "+ allvideomodes" to the end of the 3DSetup.exe
shortcut.  Be sure to leave a space before the +.  Depending on where you
installed NSR, the shortcut target line should look like this:

Driveletter\program files\EA SPORTS\NASCAR SimRacing Demo\3DSetup.exe"
+allvideomodes
----------------------

My LCD monitor now runs in 1280x1024 32.

NSR looks really great on my system. I collected 20 screenshots to post for
those who are seeing poor graphics to compare to, but Comcast is not letting
me upload to their free space using MS FP.

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David G Fisher


MadDAW

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by MadDAW » Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:55:31

I have been having a PITA with FP and Comcast. One day it works the next it
doesn't. It all started about a week and half ago. Makes updating my league
site a hit or miss type of thing.

MadDAWG

Marc Collin

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by Marc Collin » Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:18:31

But mine had all the resolutions to choose from available from the
outset...?

Marc



> Steve B. posted this the other day:
> -----------------
> Hit the start button on your desktop and navigate to the 3D Setup icon for
> NSR.  Right click on it and choose "properties".  In the "target" line of
> the shortcut dialog box, add "+ allvideomodes" to the end of the
> 3DSetup.exe
> shortcut.  Be sure to leave a space before the +.  Depending on where you
> installed NSR, the shortcut target line should look like this:

> Driveletter\program files\EA SPORTS\NASCAR SimRacing Demo\3DSetup.exe"
> +allvideomodes
> ----------------------

> My LCD monitor now runs in 1280x1024 32.

> NSR looks really great on my system. I collected 20 screenshots to post
> for
> those who are seeing poor graphics to compare to, but Comcast is not
> letting
> me upload to their free space using MS FP.

> --
> David G Fisher



>> 3D Setup ran as expected...set to 32 bit 1600x1200 like I do for all ISI
>> stuff :)  The analyzer tested and accepted the settings.  Go into game
>> and
>> everything looks worse than NT2004 at the same settings...??  Then I
>> start
>> reading about this 1280x960 business and I realise that's actually what
> mine
>> is displaying.

>> Hey, I'm Mr. Experience with sims (I like to think), so I go into the
>> .ini
>> file and manually change the videomode so it's the same as all my other
> ISI
>> sims.  Go into game.  Same shitty looking 1280x960 graphics, but with
>> some
>> really scary lighting effect bugs as you round the track.

>> Oh well.  Is there an explanation at least?  All the older ISI stuff
>> worked/works perfectly at 1600x1200.

>> Marc

Marc Collin

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by Marc Collin » Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:20:05

I re-ran the 3D Setup after playing with the settings manually in the .ini.
Chose 1600 x 1200 again.  This time it actually looks like 1600 x 1200...but
if there is an improvement over NT2004 I can't see it.

Marc


> 3D Setup ran as expected...set to 32 bit 1600x1200 like I do for all ISI
> stuff :)  The analyzer tested and accepted the settings.  Go into game and
> everything looks worse than NT2004 at the same settings...??  Then I start
> reading about this 1280x960 business and I realise that's actually what
> mine is displaying.

> Hey, I'm Mr. Experience with sims (I like to think), so I go into the .ini
> file and manually change the videomode so it's the same as all my other
> ISI sims.  Go into game.  Same shitty looking 1280x960 graphics, but with
> some really scary lighting effect bugs as you round the track.

> Oh well.  Is there an explanation at least?  All the older ISI stuff
> worked/works perfectly at 1600x1200.

> Marc

> --
> ****************************************************************************
> Marc Collins

> Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> to take effect. Reboot now?
> ****************************************************************************

David G Fishe

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by David G Fishe » Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:35:06

I posted a zip file of some of my screenshots here
http://www.eagleloans.com/download Do these look the same as what you see on
your system?

--
David G Fisher


> I re-ran the 3D Setup after playing with the settings manually in the
.ini.
> Chose 1600 x 1200 again.  This time it actually looks like 1600 x
1200...but
> if there is an improvement over NT2004 I can't see it.

> Marc



> > 3D Setup ran as expected...set to 32 bit 1600x1200 like I do for all ISI
> > stuff :)  The analyzer tested and accepted the settings.  Go into game
and
> > everything looks worse than NT2004 at the same settings...??  Then I
start
> > reading about this 1280x960 business and I realise that's actually what
> > mine is displaying.

> > Hey, I'm Mr. Experience with sims (I like to think), so I go into the
.ini
> > file and manually change the videomode so it's the same as all my other
> > ISI sims.  Go into game.  Same shitty looking 1280x960 graphics, but
with
> > some really scary lighting effect bugs as you round the track.

> > Oh well.  Is there an explanation at least?  All the older ISI stuff
> > worked/works perfectly at 1600x1200.

> > Marc

> > --

****************************************************************************
> > Marc Collins

> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> > to take effect. Reboot now?

****************************************************************************

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Marc Collin

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by Marc Collin » Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:54:31

Mine looks more or less like that...although if you asked me where the shots
were from, I would say NT004.  Is there a difference you can see between
NT2004 and the new demo?

Despite a 256 MB video card, there seems to be a problem with wheels
disappearing and other degradation occurring with the cars that are in the
distance on my system.  All video and graphics settings are maxed out.

Marc



>I posted a zip file of some of my screenshots here
> http://www.eagleloans.com/download Do these look the same as what you see
> on
> your system?

> --
> David G Fisher



>> I re-ran the 3D Setup after playing with the settings manually in the
> .ini.
>> Chose 1600 x 1200 again.  This time it actually looks like 1600 x
> 1200...but
>> if there is an improvement over NT2004 I can't see it.

>> Marc



>> > 3D Setup ran as expected...set to 32 bit 1600x1200 like I do for all
>> > ISI
>> > stuff :)  The analyzer tested and accepted the settings.  Go into game
> and
>> > everything looks worse than NT2004 at the same settings...??  Then I
> start
>> > reading about this 1280x960 business and I realise that's actually what
>> > mine is displaying.

>> > Hey, I'm Mr. Experience with sims (I like to think), so I go into the
> .ini
>> > file and manually change the videomode so it's the same as all my other
>> > ISI sims.  Go into game.  Same shitty looking 1280x960 graphics, but
> with
>> > some really scary lighting effect bugs as you round the track.

>> > Oh well.  Is there an explanation at least?  All the older ISI stuff
>> > worked/works perfectly at 1600x1200.

>> > Marc

>> > --

> ****************************************************************************
>> > Marc Collins

>> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
>> > to take effect. Reboot now?

> ****************************************************************************

David G Fishe

NSR Demo--why the strange resolution limitations?

by David G Fishe » Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:18:58

I only spent a few minutes with the NT demo, and didn't have a good enough
system at the time to try and test the graphics anywhere near there highest
level.

I'm comparing the NSR garphics shown in my screenshots to other current
sims, and they look as good as or better than any of them except rFactor.
rFactor level graphics with all those cars on screen at once though would
probably overload any current system.

I don't know what to say about the car parts disappearing in the distance. I
guess we'll see what people say about these type of issues when the full
version is released.

--
David G Fisher


> Mine looks more or less like that...although if you asked me where the
shots
> were from, I would say NT004.  Is there a difference you can see between
> NT2004 and the new demo?

> Despite a 256 MB video card, there seems to be a problem with wheels
> disappearing and other degradation occurring with the cars that are in the
> distance on my system.  All video and graphics settings are maxed out.

> Marc



> >I posted a zip file of some of my screenshots here
> > http://www.eagleloans.com/download Do these look the same as what you
see
> > on
> > your system?

> > --
> > David G Fisher



> >> I re-ran the 3D Setup after playing with the settings manually in the
> > .ini.
> >> Chose 1600 x 1200 again.  This time it actually looks like 1600 x
> > 1200...but
> >> if there is an improvement over NT2004 I can't see it.

> >> Marc



> >> > 3D Setup ran as expected...set to 32 bit 1600x1200 like I do for all
> >> > ISI
> >> > stuff :)  The analyzer tested and accepted the settings.  Go into
game
> > and
> >> > everything looks worse than NT2004 at the same settings...??  Then I
> > start
> >> > reading about this 1280x960 business and I realise that's actually
what
> >> > mine is displaying.

> >> > Hey, I'm Mr. Experience with sims (I like to think), so I go into the
> > .ini
> >> > file and manually change the videomode so it's the same as all my
other
> >> > ISI sims.  Go into game.  Same shitty looking 1280x960 graphics, but
> > with
> >> > some really scary lighting effect bugs as you round the track.

> >> > Oh well.  Is there an explanation at least?  All the older ISI stuff
> >> > worked/works perfectly at 1600x1200.

> >> > Marc

> >> > --

****************************************************************************
> >> > Marc Collins

> >> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> >> > to take effect. Reboot now?

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