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N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

Bob

N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

by Bob » Fri, 08 Aug 1997 04:00:00



> > This is somewhat off on a tangent, but I've always heard the scariest
> > handling car on the road was the Porsche 911

> Oh, I'd have to say that an old swing-axle (pre 1969) VW Beetle is
> scarier than a 911. But at much lower speeds...

> ---Jim

Yeah, I had a '64 1/2  "Bug".   It was great for doing donuts in icy
parking lots.  ;)

bob

<remove this>pisto

N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

by <remove this>pisto » Fri, 08 Aug 1997 04:00:00



> > This is somewhat off on a tangent, but I've always heard the scariest
> > handling car on the road was the Porsche 911

> Oh, I'd have to say that an old swing-axle (pre 1969) VW Beetle is
> scarier than a 911. But at much lower speeds...

> ---Jim

True, but I had a '71 VW Squareback that always seemed capable of
creating unwanted thrills above 45mph.
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SimRaci

N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

by SimRaci » Fri, 08 Aug 1997 04:00:00



>> > This is somewhat off on a tangent, but I've always heard the scariest
>> > handling car on the road was the Porsche 911

>> Oh, I'd have to say that an old swing-axle (pre 1969) VW Beetle is
>> scarier than a 911. But at much lower speeds...

>> ---Jim

>Yeah, I had a '64 1/2  "Bug".   It was great for doing donuts in icy
>parking lots.  ;)

I wouldn't recommend slaming the brakes on a Jeep CJ5 at
anything over 35 mph...

Marc

Frank Faro

N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

by Frank Faro » Mon, 11 Aug 1997 04:00:00

Make certain that you don't have steering assist enabled.  This gave me
a similar problem when I first got the game.  My 2 year old son,
however, prefers steering assist on for some reason!!



> > I wonder if someone can give me a hand. I downl oaded the N2 demo
> and got
> > e***d enough to buy the full version of NASCAR2. However, when I
> > installed the full version and hopped into the drivers seat I found
> the car
> > would fishtail and then sway back and forth after coming out of
> corners.

> > I tried to remedy the problem by changing my skill level identical
> to Jeff
> > Gordon's

> The skill level number for the player means NOTHING to the game. (The
> skill level for the player is determined dynamically, by the player's
> control inputs... :-) )

> > and then downloading some pre-made car setups for specific tracks.

> Setup is almost never the first thing to change. Try driving with the
> Stock FAST or ACE setups. Setups downloaded from on-line are often too

> "twitchy" for novice players. Learn to drive first, then work on
> setups.

> > Not much luck. I have pushed a little more weight to the rear of the
> car

> Pushing weight to the rear will make the car LOOSER. This is the
> opposite of what you want.

> > and have pushed the rear spoiler up to 70 degrees. This helped
> somewhat but
> > slowed the car down so much that it made it difficult to compete
> with the
> > AI cars in the 95 to 100 percent strength range and I still fish and
> sway
> > coming out of the corners... especially coming out of the tri-oval
> at Dega.

> Rear spoiler should be around 70 degrees at everywhere except
> Taladega.
> (At least for starters...)

> > The only way to stop the swaying is to either tap the wall with the
> car or
> > slow down and brake, neither of which is a good way to win races.

> On most courses, you NEED to slow down and brake. Slowing down and
> braking is actually an *excellent* way to win races... :-)

> > Any suggestions???

> If you're using a keyboard or a cheap joystick, improve that. If you
> aren't getting at least 25 fps, turn down the graphics details until
> you
> are.

> ---Jim

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Frank Faro

N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

by Frank Faro » Mon, 11 Aug 1997 04:00:00

Make certain that you don't have steering assist enabled.  This gave me
a similar problem when I first got the game.  My 2 year old son,
however, prefers steering assist on for some reason!!



> > I wonder if someone can give me a hand. I downl oaded the N2 demo
> and got
> > e***d enough to buy the full version of NASCAR2. However, when I
> > installed the full version and hopped into the drivers seat I found
> the car
> > would fishtail and then sway back and forth after coming out of
> corners.

> > I tried to remedy the problem by changing my skill level identical
> to Jeff
> > Gordon's

> The skill level number for the player means NOTHING to the game. (The
> skill level for the player is determined dynamically, by the player's
> control inputs... :-) )

> > and then downloading some pre-made car setups for specific tracks.

> Setup is almost never the first thing to change. Try driving with the
> Stock FAST or ACE setups. Setups downloaded from on-line are often too

> "twitchy" for novice players. Learn to drive first, then work on
> setups.

> > Not much luck. I have pushed a little more weight to the rear of the
> car

> Pushing weight to the rear will make the car LOOSER. This is the
> opposite of what you want.

> > and have pushed the rear spoiler up to 70 degrees. This helped
> somewhat but
> > slowed the car down so much that it made it difficult to compete
> with the
> > AI cars in the 95 to 100 percent strength range and I still fish and
> sway
> > coming out of the corners... especially coming out of the tri-oval
> at Dega.

> Rear spoiler should be around 70 degrees at everywhere except
> Taladega.
> (At least for starters...)

> > The only way to stop the swaying is to either tap the wall with the
> car or
> > slow down and brake, neither of which is a good way to win races.

> On most courses, you NEED to slow down and brake. Slowing down and
> braking is actually an *excellent* way to win races... :-)

> > Any suggestions???

> If you're using a keyboard or a cheap joystick, improve that. If you
> aren't getting at least 25 fps, turn down the graphics details until
> you
> are.

> ---Jim

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David Spark

N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

by David Spark » Tue, 12 Aug 1997 04:00:00


Actually, the LF shock has a minimal effect on the balance of the car
exiting the corner. I find that the balance of the rear wheels is more
critical than the LF. However, as you stated, these two suggestions have an
opposite effect. Lowering tire pressure tends to increase grip, while
stiffening a shcok tends to reduce grip.

In general, you're correct. Stiffening the LR gives the RR better grip
which causes the car to want to turn left on the exit of a left-hand
corner.

Agreed. I use tire pressure to equalize heat and tire wear, and then fine
tune the setup with shocks.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars/index.html-ssi
Late Night Series: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Wayne Bradl

N2 Car fishtailing (Setup Problem)

by Wayne Bradl » Thu, 14 Aug 1997 04:00:00

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong....



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>Re: N2 Loose Exiting the corners

>Consider these options:

>1. First, on the lighter side--never do anything like Jeff Gordon--always
>do as Earnhardt, Waltrip, Marcis, Rudd, Marlin, Martin or anyone else !!!
>    :)

>2. Seriously, "loose out the corners"

>a. lower left front tire pressure OR
>b. stiffen LF shock  OR
>c.  raise LR tire pressure OR
>d..stiffen LR shock


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