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Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

Mrv

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Mrv » Fri, 04 Aug 2000 04:00:00

If you use a computer just to play games $2000 investment isn't a very good
idea.


> >Save your money.  It is not worth upgrading your computer for Gp2.5.

> But, there are OTHER games out there, too... :)

> Eldred
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Ronald Stoeh

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Ronald Stoeh » Fri, 04 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> If you use a computer just to play games $2000 investment isn't a very good
> idea.

Hmm, to be able to play the games I WANT to play, I just HAVE to buy a
PC.
It's used for other things, too, but playing all those sims alone would
be worth it as well.

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Eldre

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Eldre » Fri, 04 Aug 2000 04:00:00


>If you use a computer just to play games $2000 investment isn't a very good
>idea.



>> >Save your money.  It is not worth upgrading your computer for Gp2.5.

>> But, there are OTHER games out there, too... :)

>> Eldred

Most people don't need a high-end Athlon to balance their checkbook, do term
papers, or surf the web.  It's ALWAYS been the games that push the envelope.
Having said that, I wouldn't spend $2000 on a new computer either.  But if I
was as rich as some people here purport to be, I might...<g>

Eldred
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* Leon

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by * Leon » Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:00:00

.

hey

don;t waste your money
you only need more ram =64 atleast
and TNT 2 or something more current

CPU is not that great effect as many test
have proven
go to annand hardware for more test results

Gunnar Horrigm

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Gunnar Horrigm » Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:00:00




>> It's perfectly playable on my K6-200 in software mode (It won't recognise a
>> voodoo1). It looks good enough in 640x480, and I get 15fps with a PO of
>> below 100% most of the time. The PO is unaffected by FF or rain.

>> I can't wait to see what it's like in 1024x768 when I upgrade.

> Woh.....that IS impressive!  Just shows how much GP2 is in there!! Not that
> that is necessarily too much of a bad thing!


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Gunnar Horrigm

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Gunnar Horrigm » Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:00:00




>> It's perfectly playable on my K6-200 in software mode (It won't recognise a
>> voodoo1). It looks good enough in 640x480, and I get 15fps with a PO of
>> below 100% most of the time. The PO is unaffected by FF or rain.

>> I can't wait to see what it's like in 1024x768 when I upgrade.

> Woh.....that IS impressive!  Just shows how much GP2 is in there!! Not that
> that is necessarily too much of a bad thing!


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Gregor Vebl

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Gregor Vebl » Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> I have a P2-450 system with a Voodoo 3 3000 card. Until I feel ready to
> shell out $2000-odd for a new system with onsite warranty (needed for work),
> my only upgrade options would be Voodoo 5 or 256M of RAM (128M now), as I
> will lose my onsite warranty by replacing CPU or MB.

> Is it worth buying GP3 for this setup? What kind of fps and CPU occupancy
> can I expect at 1024x768 resolution?

> Thanks,
> Chris

I got a PIII-450, Voodoo 3 3000, and got GP3 today.

Buy, buy, buy !!!! ;)

(1024x768 runs fine with me)

-Gregor

Chris Help

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Chris Help » Sun, 06 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I've been spoiled by the 36pfs I get on GPL. I wonder why, with a less
complex physics model, GP3 is so much more demanding of system hardware. MY
respect for Papy is growing ... I really hope they make a new CART sim.

Sky




> > I have a P2-450 system with a Voodoo 3 3000 card. Until I feel ready to
> > shell out $2000-odd for a new system with onsite warranty (needed for
> work),
> > my only upgrade options would be Voodoo 5 or 256M of RAM (128M now), as
I
> > will lose my onsite warranty by replacing CPU or MB.

> > Is it worth buying GP3 for this setup? What kind of fps and CPU
occupancy
> > can I expect at 1024x768 resolution?

> Hell yeah Chris,
> I'm just on a P2-350 and 16MB voodoo Banshee....
> With full detail I can get over 20ftps and PO of less than 100 except on
> starts as is to be expected.

> Of course I suppose I'm ignoring and denying the fat that I have a low
frame
> rate aren't i, I'm ashamed:-(

Chris Help

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Chris Help » Sun, 06 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I use it for my work - I'm a consultant. If I only used it for games, I
would just by a new motherboard, but I need that Dell onsite warranty to
ensure I don't face much downtime.

Sky


> If you use a computer just to play games $2000 investment isn't a very
good
> idea.



writes:

> > >Save your money.  It is not worth upgrading your computer for Gp2.5.

> > But, there are OTHER games out there, too... :)

> > Eldred
> > --
> > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > GPL hcp. +52.52

> > Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> > with experience...
> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Chris Help

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Chris Help » Sun, 06 Aug 2000 04:00:00

What res are you running, and what frame-rate?

Thanks,
Sky


> Mine is P2-450 with a V3 2000 overclocked to 166Mhz and GP3 runs fine. I
> have a LWFF wheel and the CPU is around 100 with all the graphics on apart
> from some mirror textures. I don't know for sure but an MSFF my hog more
> cpu, depends what you have.
> Steve


> >I have a P2-450 system with a Voodoo 3 3000 card. Until I feel ready to
> >shell out $2000-odd for a new system with onsite warranty (needed for
> work),
> >my only upgrade options would be Voodoo 5 or 256M of RAM (128M now), as I
> >will lose my onsite warranty by replacing CPU or MB.

> >Is it worth buying GP3 for this setup? What kind of fps and CPU occupancy
> >can I expect at 1024x768 resolution?

> >Thanks,
> >Chris

Chris Help

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Chris Help » Sun, 06 Aug 2000 04:00:00

What frame rate?

Sky



> > I have a P2-450 system with a Voodoo 3 3000 card. Until I feel ready to
> > shell out $2000-odd for a new system with onsite warranty (needed for
work),
> > my only upgrade options would be Voodoo 5 or 256M of RAM (128M now), as
I
> > will lose my onsite warranty by replacing CPU or MB.

> > Is it worth buying GP3 for this setup? What kind of fps and CPU
occupancy
> > can I expect at 1024x768 resolution?

> > Thanks,
> > Chris

> I got a PIII-450, Voodoo 3 3000, and got GP3 today.

> Buy, buy, buy !!!! ;)

> (1024x768 runs fine with me)

> -Gregor

Dave Henri

Is GP3 Worth Buying for a 450MHz, Voodoo 3 System?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 06 Aug 2000 04:00:00

  I "think" we are missing a vital concept here.   GPL runs at 36fps.  That
is the maximum required to achieve all the input and output functions in a
timely and lag free manner.
  In Gp3...25fps are all that are needed to acheive what that program needs
to display and feedback all the info.  Now I'm not saying 36fps isn't
nice...but if you compare that to the 100+ fps that many players in Quake
III get....you may get my point.  Sure it would be nice if Gp3 produced more
fps, but it isn't necessary to show the full game.    Just like GPL doesn't
need 100+ fps to show all it's bells and whistles...
dave henrie

> I've been spoiled by the 36pfs I get on GPL. I wonder why, with a less
> complex physics model, GP3 is so much more demanding of system hardware.
MY
> respect for Papy is growing ... I really hope they make a new CART sim.

> Sky






> > > I have a P2-450 system with a Voodoo 3 3000 card. Until I feel ready
to
> > > shell out $2000-odd for a new system with onsite warranty (needed for
> > work),
> > > my only upgrade options would be Voodoo 5 or 256M of RAM (128M now),
as
> I
> > > will lose my onsite warranty by replacing CPU or MB.

> > > Is it worth buying GP3 for this setup? What kind of fps and CPU
> occupancy
> > > can I expect at 1024x768 resolution?

> > Hell yeah Chris,
> > I'm just on a P2-350 and 16MB voodoo Banshee....
> > With full detail I can get over 20ftps and PO of less than 100 except on
> > starts as is to be expected.

> > Of course I suppose I'm ignoring and denying the fat that I have a low
> frame
> > rate aren't i, I'm ashamed:-(


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