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GP2: Joystick/Steering device wobblies!

Andy Jon

GP2: Joystick/Steering device wobblies!

by Andy Jon » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Hi all...

I have just got a T2 and have set it up so that it seems ok on the
face of it but I am noticing a very annoying problem.

At intervals of about 1-2 seconds the game seems to sense that the
wheel has been turned to the left and back again for a brief instant.

The effect is also present if I sit in neutral and press the
accelerater until I get what I would expect should be a constant rpm
noise. Intead of a constant noise I get a blip every 1-2 seconds. I
thought at first that this was the fact that high performance engines
just wont idle very well but what with the steering effect as well I
no longer believe this.

The effect is also present when calibrating. If I hold the wheel still
in the centre (or dont hold it atall!) the dot in the screen keeps
flicking left about 1/2 inch (screen is a 17").

Is this experienced by anyone else?

I have two sound cards each with a joystick port. One is an old Gravis
Ultrasound. I cant get this to work with the joystick sensibly at all
although the sound is fine. The second is a cheap Soundblaster 16 copy
and its this I get the wobblies with.

Maybe the warning in the T2 manuals about getting a game port card is
true and not just sales blurb. Any thoughts?

I run Windows 95 on my PC 'BUT' I am running under MS-DOS mode when
using GP2.

The video card is a Matrox Millenium.
PC is a Micron with 100mhz pentium and 16mb ram.

Please help if you can. Its ***y hard work doing 200+ round Monza
with someone yanking the wheel to the left every two seconds. :-)

If I was driving as Schumacker then I'd think Damon was leaning out
and grabbing it, but I'm not. :-)

Cheers

Andy
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Michael E. Carv

GP2: Joystick/Steering device wobblies!

by Michael E. Carv » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00

[snip]
: The effect is also present when calibrating. If I hold the wheel still
: in the centre (or dont hold it atall!) the dot in the screen keeps
: flicking left about 1/2 inch (screen is a 17").

: Is this experienced by anyone else?

: I have two sound cards each with a joystick port. One is an old Gravis
: Ultrasound. I cant get this to work with the joystick sensibly at all
: although the sound is fine. The second is a cheap Soundblaster 16 copy
: and its this I get the wobblies with.

: Maybe the warning in the T2 manuals about getting a game port card is
: true and not just sales blurb. Any thoughts?

You seem to have answered your own question.  You have 2 joystick ports
which are competing for attention.  It sounds like both of them are
being read (one after the other).  When one is being polled the other
doesn't "exist".  Disable the joystick port on the card which is not
hooked up to your T2.

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Krabme

GP2: Joystick/Steering device wobblies!

by Krabme » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00

<<The effect is also present when calibrating. If I hold the wheel still
in the centre (or dont hold it atall!) the dot in the screen keeps
flicking left about 1/2 inch (screen is a 17").>>

This is the key. You probably have a bad potentiometer. Replace it and
your problem should go away.

Medu

GP2: Joystick/Steering device wobblies!

by Medu » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00



>Hi all...

>I have just got a T2 and have set it up so that it seems ok on the
>face of it but I am noticing a very annoying problem.

>At intervals of about 1-2 seconds the game seems to sense that the
>wheel has been turned to the left and back again for a brief instant.

>The effect is also present if I sit in neutral and press the
>accelerater until I get what I would expect should be a constant rpm
>noise. Intead of a constant noise I get a blip every 1-2 seconds. I
>thought at first that this was the fact that high performance engines
>just wont idle very well but what with the steering effect as well I
>no longer believe this.

>The effect is also present when calibrating. If I hold the wheel still
>in the centre (or dont hold it atall!) the dot in the screen keeps
>flicking left about 1/2 inch (screen is a 17").

>Is this experienced by anyone else?

>I have two sound cards each with a joystick port. One is an old Gravis
>Ultrasound. I cant get this to work with the joystick sensibly at all
>although the sound is fine. The second is a cheap Soundblaster 16 copy
>and its this I get the wobblies with.

>Maybe the warning in the T2 manuals about getting a game port card is
>true and not just sales blurb. Any thoughts?

>I run Windows 95 on my PC 'BUT' I am running under MS-DOS mode when
>using GP2.

>The video card is a Matrox Millenium.
>PC is a Micron with 100mhz pentium and 16mb ram.

>Please help if you can. Its ***y hard work doing 200+ round Monza
>with someone yanking the wheel to the left every two seconds. :-)

>If I was driving as Schumacker then I'd think Damon was leaning out
>and grabbing it, but I'm not. :-)

>Cheers

>Andy
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I have the same kind of problem. With Indycar 2 I was not able to play
at all. I have a classic ultrasound too. I don't know exactly what is
the problem, I have also a new gamecard as somebody told me that the
problem was in the gravis gameport. I also took off the gravis and run
gameport program that detected a conflict ??!! So I checked to see if
it was the gameport on the motherboard that was not disabled but it is
disabled. SO I don't have an answer, I will do some other experiment
in the next days hoping to find out ...

Ciao (sorry for my poor english)
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Jason A. Coo

GP2: Joystick/Steering device wobblies!

by Jason A. Coo » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00


> [snip]
> : The effect is also present when calibrating. If I hold the wheel still
> : in the centre (or dont hold it atall!) the dot in the screen keeps
> : flicking left about 1/2 inch (screen is a 17").

> : Is this experienced by anyone else?

> : I have two sound cards each with a joystick port. One is an old Gravis
> : Ultrasound. I cant get this to work with the joystick sensibly at all
> : although the sound is fine. The second is a cheap Soundblaster 16 copy
> : and its this I get the wobblies with.

> : Maybe the warning in the T2 manuals about getting a game port card is
> : true and not just sales blurb. Any thoughts?

Yes, I also had (have) this problem.  When I try to use the GUs game
port and for sound at the same time, I too get the 'phantom' cursor
appearing.  I found I can the GUS game port, without problems, when
I use my SB clone for sound.

I contacted Gravis about this, and they said that it might have
something to do with the HMI drivers and DMA access.   I tend to
agree, as I have the same problem with ICR2 and GP2, which both
use the HMI drivers.  Curiously, though, I never had the problem
before I upgraded to ICR2 1.02, so I'm thinking that the older
HMI drivers might work.

I doubt it's your pots gone bad, when mine went they did a slow drift
all over the place.  Thrustmaster sent me some replacements, and the
drifting stopped, but the 'phantom' cursor remained.

Good luck

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Andy Jon

GP2: Joystick/Steering device wobblies!

by Andy Jon » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00


>Hi all...

>I have just got a T2 and have set it up so that it seems ok on the
>face of it but I am noticing a very annoying problem.

>At intervals of about 1-2 seconds the game seems to sense that the
>wheel has been turned to the left and back again for a brief instant.

Just to let you know that the problem is solved.

I was using the game port on my cheapo Sound blaster 16 compatable
card and using my Gravis Ultrasound for sound.

The sound on the Ultrasound is much better than the cheapo card but it
was the cause of the wobblies.

Telling GP2 to use the Sound16 for sound cured the problem.

Thanks for the help and sugestions.

Cheers

Andy
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