conversion of the GPL physics engine for use in the Nascar products.
- Eric
- Eric
SB
> - Eric
> > That in all the press releases, all the sysop statements, all the
> > newsgroup rantings...not a single MENTION of Dave Kaemmer???
may we ask whether Papy will keep creating sims for the PC?
Achim
> - Eric
> > That in all the press releases, all the sysop statements, all the
> > newsgroup rantings...not a single MENTION of Dave Kaemmer???
Yay. Thanks for the confirmation Eric, and good luck to you guys with
your new projects. It must be nice to have those 2489572345 Nascar
sims behind you. =)
Jason
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John
> TP
> > Not sure Tom, but I think Randy Cassidy is the multiplay genuis at
Papy.
> > John
> > > Dave Kaemmer, who?
> > > What did he do for the Papy NASCAR series?
> > > Dave gets "major-league" kudos from me (and probably the rest of the
> > world,
> > > at least he deserves to) on his GPL genre'........that's just a given.
> > But,
> > > he didn't do anything for the NASCAR series at Papyrus....not even the
> > > conversion of the GPL physics engine to N4. Although, maybe that was
> just
> > a
> > > *** rumor?
> > > And, by the way.....wasn't Ed Martin around when the Papy "Hawaii"
> online
> > > beta was running/developing? Isn't he considered the "father of MP"
at
> > > Papyrus? Isn't he also, now at EA doing the pc "full simulation"
NASCAR
> > > Thunder -2003? Or, is that a different guy?
> > > And, when someone surely says, "Yeah....but look what Ed did with
> > > Heat.....it had crappy mp too!"
> > > Then I will say, "Heat was short changed by Hasbro when they got
notice
> of
> > > the impending sale......just ask the guys at MGI about that. Seems to
> me
> > > the mp in Viper Racing was dang good, no? But it never got into Heat
> > > because Hasbro shut the project down and banged it out the
door....only
> > > about 80% finished, remember?" Is Rich Garcia still at MGI?
> > > I thought one word in the Sierra press release was of interest:
"NASCAR
> > > series finale" - yep, I know that's three words. Here's three more
> words:
> > > Bye, bye Papy!
> > > TP
> > > PS: Before some of you start flaming me for anti-papy
> sentiments.......I
> > > admit I don't like the corporate culture at Papyrus....I think that's
> been
> > > bad for the sim community, in general...for too many years now (they
> > stifled
> > > creativity in the user group....or tried to in a heavy-handed
> way......as
> > > in, Havas legal was "dialing for dollars" to my phones pretty
regularly
> a
> > > couple years ago). But, I'd like to see them cut free of the NASCAR
> > series
> > > to do a more creative racing sim. Even GPL-2 would be to my liking.
> But
> > it
> > > ain't going to happen. Hopefully, the talent still left there will
find
> > its
> > > way over to EA (ISI) and we can keep on going with cool NASCAR racing
> sims
> > > (with good mp, too). Let's hope "GPL lives" in Racing
> Legends......many,
> > > many more eons! Okay, Chris and Tony....."La puerta esta abierta!"
Or
> > > something like that?
> > > > That in all the press releases, all the sysop statements, all the
> > > > newsgroup rantings...not a single MENTION of Dave Kaemmer???
> > > > dave henrie
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Glad to hear it. Thanks for the info.
dave henrie
> > Kaemmer is working on the physics for 2003.
> > - Eric
> Glad to hear it. Thanks for the info.
> dave henrie
> > > Kaemmer is working on the physics for 2003.
> > > - Eric
> > Glad to hear it. Thanks for the info.
> > dave henrie
> John
> > Dave Kaemmer, who?
> > What did he do for the Papy NASCAR series?
> > Dave gets "major-league" kudos from me (and probably the rest of the
> world,
> > at least he deserves to) on his GPL genre'........that's just a given.
> But,
> > he didn't do anything for the NASCAR series at Papyrus....not even the
> > conversion of the GPL physics engine to N4. Although, maybe that was
just
> a
> > *** rumor?
> > And, by the way.....wasn't Ed Martin around when the Papy "Hawaii"
online
> > beta was running/developing? Isn't he considered the "father of MP" at
> > Papyrus? Isn't he also, now at EA doing the pc "full simulation" NASCAR
> > Thunder -2003? Or, is that a different guy?
> > And, when someone surely says, "Yeah....but look what Ed did with
> > Heat.....it had crappy mp too!"
> > Then I will say, "Heat was short changed by Hasbro when they got notice
of
> > the impending sale......just ask the guys at MGI about that. Seems to
me
> > the mp in Viper Racing was dang good, no? But it never got into Heat
> > because Hasbro shut the project down and banged it out the door....only
> > about 80% finished, remember?" Is Rich Garcia still at MGI?
> > I thought one word in the Sierra press release was of interest: "NASCAR
> > series finale" - yep, I know that's three words. Here's three more
words:
> > Bye, bye Papy!
> > TP
> > PS: Before some of you start flaming me for anti-papy
sentiments.......I
> > admit I don't like the corporate culture at Papyrus....I think that's
been
> > bad for the sim community, in general...for too many years now (they
> stifled
> > creativity in the user group....or tried to in a heavy-handed
way......as
> > in, Havas legal was "dialing for dollars" to my phones pretty regularly
a
> > couple years ago). But, I'd like to see them cut free of the NASCAR
> series
> > to do a more creative racing sim. Even GPL-2 would be to my liking.
But
> it
> > ain't going to happen. Hopefully, the talent still left there will find
> its
> > way over to EA (ISI) and we can keep on going with cool NASCAR racing
sims
> > (with good mp, too). Let's hope "GPL lives" in Racing
Legends......many,
> > many more eons! Okay, Chris and Tony....."La puerta esta abierta!" Or
> > something like that?
> > > That in all the press releases, all the sysop statements, all the
> > > newsgroup rantings...not a single MENTION of Dave Kaemmer???
> > > dave henrie
> > Not sure Tom, but I think Randy Cassidy is the multiplay genuis at
Papy.
> > John
> > > Dave Kaemmer, who?
> > > What did he do for the Papy NASCAR series?
> > > Dave gets "major-league" kudos from me (and probably the rest of the
> > world,
> > > at least he deserves to) on his GPL genre'........that's just a given.
> > But,
> > > he didn't do anything for the NASCAR series at Papyrus....not even the
> > > conversion of the GPL physics engine to N4. Although, maybe that was
> just
> > a
> > > *** rumor?
> > > And, by the way.....wasn't Ed Martin around when the Papy "Hawaii"
> online
> > > beta was running/developing? Isn't he considered the "father of MP"
at
> > > Papyrus? Isn't he also, now at EA doing the pc "full simulation"
NASCAR
> > > Thunder -2003? Or, is that a different guy?
> > > And, when someone surely says, "Yeah....but look what Ed did with
> > > Heat.....it had crappy mp too!"
> > > Then I will say, "Heat was short changed by Hasbro when they got
notice
> of
> > > the impending sale......just ask the guys at MGI about that. Seems to
> me
> > > the mp in Viper Racing was dang good, no? But it never got into Heat
> > > because Hasbro shut the project down and banged it out the
door....only
> > > about 80% finished, remember?" Is Rich Garcia still at MGI?
> > > I thought one word in the Sierra press release was of interest:
"NASCAR
> > > series finale" - yep, I know that's three words. Here's three more
> words:
> > > Bye, bye Papy!
> > > TP
> > > PS: Before some of you start flaming me for anti-papy
> sentiments.......I
> > > admit I don't like the corporate culture at Papyrus....I think that's
> been
> > > bad for the sim community, in general...for too many years now (they
> > stifled
> > > creativity in the user group....or tried to in a heavy-handed
> way......as
> > > in, Havas legal was "dialing for dollars" to my phones pretty
regularly
> a
> > > couple years ago). But, I'd like to see them cut free of the NASCAR
> > series
> > > to do a more creative racing sim. Even GPL-2 would be to my liking.
> But
> > it
> > > ain't going to happen. Hopefully, the talent still left there will
find
> > its
> > > way over to EA (ISI) and we can keep on going with cool NASCAR racing
> sims
> > > (with good mp, too). Let's hope "GPL lives" in Racing
> Legends......many,
> > > many more eons! Okay, Chris and Tony....."La puerta esta abierta!"
Or
> > > something like that?
> > > > That in all the press releases, all the sysop statements, all the
> > > > newsgroup rantings...not a single MENTION of Dave Kaemmer???
> > > > dave henrie
> Yep. I forgot about Charlie. Been a long time.
Charlie was cool though, I still remember him being rather "unimpressed"
about the MP code in NHeat over on Jake's old NG
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
> > Yep. I forgot about Charlie. Been a long time.
> Your fault he left Brian, but you already knew that...:-)
> Charlie was cool though, I still remember him being rather "unimpressed"
> about the MP code in NHeat over on Jake's old NG