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which OS is best for gaming?

Eldre

which OS is best for gaming?

by Eldre » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:16:20



>Also I have used the QoS scheduler in Pro to improve my bandwidth
>marginally by restricting the OS's access to it.  With Home the OS can use
>up to 20% of your bandwidth and there is no way to control it.

How do you know that?  We have a bunch of students on our network who are
probably running XP Home, and it may be a noticible bandwith hit for them.

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Goy Larse

which OS is best for gaming?

by Goy Larse » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 10:59:54




> >Also I have used the QoS scheduler in Pro to improve my bandwidth
> >marginally by restricting the OS's access to it.  With Home the OS can use
> >up to 20% of your bandwidth and there is no way to control it.

> How do you know that?  We have a bunch of students on our network who are
> probably running XP Home, and it may be a noticible bandwith hit for them.

There seems to be a general consensus to this "up to 20%" figure....as
always, take it FWIW....

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Haqsa

which OS is best for gaming?

by Haqsa » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 12:09:41

(Had to switch news servers because my regular one is down.  Sorry if this
appears out of sequence as a result).

Couldn't give you a definitive list, but there are quite a few services that
you can control in the Group Policy Editor that are marked "Requirements: at
least Microsoft Windows XP Professional".  Come to think of it, the Group
Policy Editor itself is only available in XP Pro.  Anyway what I am saying
is that in Home you can shut down whatever services it shows you, but it
isn't showing you all of them, and in fact you aren't even given the tools
necessary to control all of them.



Haqsa

which OS is best for gaming?

by Haqsa » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 12:13:59

Please see my previous reply in this thread to Don Burnette.


Haqsa

which OS is best for gaming?

by Haqsa » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 12:23:19

It's not just a matter of consensus, the 20% figure is the default for the
QoS packet scheduler, and it says right in the help file that it will also
use 20% if QoS is not running.  IOW the only way to keep XP from using your
bandwidth is to run QoS and set the allowance to 0%.  Now, will the OS ever
actually use 20% of a broadband connection?  I don't know, but I know it
can't on my PC.  ;o)


Larr

which OS is best for gaming?

by Larr » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:11:53

Bring your Personal Laptop with XP Home on it into work and try to connect
to a Novell or Microsoft ActiveDirectory Network and see how far you get...
If you work within a large corporation, as I do, you see it all the time.

And there are PLENTY of people who complain about not being able to get
their small home-based simple file sharing networks to work as well.

It just isn't worth it.  And, I think it's going to get worse as time goes
on and new technologies and products come out for XP.

One more Tidbit.  Have to tunnel into your corporate network to do benifits
or other stuff using a SecureRemote tunnel?  If you have the Home version of
XP, don't bother trying to use SecureRemote.

Larry



> > Yeah, like networking.  The most comon complaint about home is
Networking.
> > Some people have a hell of a time getting it to work.

> > And don't forget that the difficiencies in Home are is one of the
reasons
> > every smart display sold has a bundled copy of XP Pro in the box,
whether
> > you want it or want to pay for it or not.

> > Again, I recommend Home to NO ONE.  I'll never be convinced otherwise.
I
> > own and have used both.  I find Home to be a pain in the ass.

> Ok......

> I'm trying really hard to understand your complaints against XP Home and
> I'm not getting it, not looking for an argument, just not getting it

> Today I installed XP home on 3 computers for customers and XP Pro on one
> of my shop computers (long boring story about being too cheap to buy a
> UPS omitted)

> That's from the ground up, with drivers and service packs and what not,
> and aside from not being able to connect to my NT Domain with the Home
> based computers, I didn't see any differences, as soon as the drivers
> for the NIC was installed, it grabbed an IP from my DHCP server and I
> could get working, didn't even need a reboot

> Since I know about the NT Domain problem I have a W98 computer***
> about which I can share the files I need to and let the XP Home machines
> grab their drivers from there, transfer rates are just as fast as in PRO

> None of this would ever matter to your average Home user so why shell
> out an extra 100 dollars for some admin tools and some advanced
> networking stuff that they'd "never" use ?

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

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Don Jenning

which OS is best for gaming?

by Don Jenning » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 00:11:38

connect to a Novell or Microsoft ActiveDirectory Network and see how far you
get...<<<

We have a Novell network at work, with about 30 W98's, 5 or 6 XPHome's, and
a few stray Macs*** on it.  I know there are issues, and our tech
people are recommending XPPro's for new purchases, but the Home's are all
working happily.

their small home-based simple file sharing networks to work as well.<<<

Don't doubt that lots of people have trouble networking, but my home system
has an XPHome and Win98 networked for file and internet connection sharing.
Wasn't too much problem to set up.  I got the Home on purpose because I
perceived that I'd need to know more about the guts of networks and domains
and such to run Pro than I really wanted to.  Probably an unfounded
perception, but I can live with that ;-)

Eldre

which OS is best for gaming?

by Eldre » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 01:00:37


writes:

How are they failing?  It's not the IT department's job to assist you with a
purchase for a *personal* machine...

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Goy Larse

which OS is best for gaming?

by Goy Larse » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 03:11:11



> writes:

> >Personally I think that if the IT dep at your place of work doesn't
> >inform you about this when you go out and purchase a new system for
> >"home office" use or a laptop, they're the ones failing, not the OS

> How are they failing?  It's not the IT department's job to assist you with a
> purchase for a *personal* machine...

If you purchase a system for Home Office use, it's implied that you will
at some point want to to connect to the office LAN or do some more
advanced networking of some sorts, goes with the territory, in which
case it's fairly certain that your place of employment will pick up at
least some of the bill for the purchase, in which case it falls under
the IT department to give you some kind of advice as to what kind of
hardware/software you need to be able to do so, or maybe even do the
purchase for you

Whenever I have customers looking for something like this, I always ask
if they have contacted their IT dep, if they haven't I advice them to do
so and tell them I'll be quite happy to talk to a rep from their IT dep
to make sure they go home with the right hardware/software for their
use, to me that's nothing but common sense

Beers and cheers
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Dave Henri

which OS is best for gaming?

by Dave Henri » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 03:41:58

Goy Larsen to me that's nothing but common sense

     Yeah but Goy, these are the general public we are talking
about...common sense????????
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Goy Larse

which OS is best for gaming?

by Goy Larse » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 04:55:04


> Goy Larsen to me that's nothing but common sense

> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy

>      Yeah but Goy, these are the general public we are talking
> about...common sense????????
> ????|>>>>
> ?????????
> ??????
> ???????
> ??
> ?

Sometimes I forget that I live in an imperfect world, thx for reminding
me Dave, nice to know I can count on you to get me down to earth again

Beers and cheers
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Eldre

which OS is best for gaming?

by Eldre » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 20:41:02


writes:

Just because someone buys a computer to telecommute doesn't automatically mean
they'll ever bring it into the office.  That's what the OFFICE computer is
for...

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