rec.autos.simulators

by **Lorne Glustei** » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Jan, thats exactly the way I feel and thats why I`m having fun with F1-2000.
I like to race online in a car I really enjoy driving and F1-2000 offers me
that (fun is fun). Fran?ois, I know exactly where you are coming from as
well and I also agree with you... I`ve also been waiting for something that
can be called a "true modern F1 >SIM<" and other than GP2 (in it`s time) I
dont think any company has come close to making one.... they all seem to
have major shortcomings in on area or another. They call these things "sims"
but usually they dont come close to living up to what that title [should]
represent. The job of making a "perfect sim" is no doubt a ***e.... but
it`s amazing to me how many totaly stupid mistakes are made in most
sim`s.... some mistakes are nothing but oversites that should never have
happend. Other mistakes are probably the result of budget and\or rushing to
ship the product. In any case, I look forward to the day someone gets it
right in all areas (maybe GP3?). But until then I can only deal with the
shortcomings and spend time with the F1 sim I have the most fun with....
right now thats F1-2000

All the best,
Lorne

by **James Pickar** » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

To answer your questions.

Schumacher was the ONLY driver to do this.. and he only did it once. It was
on his final qualifying lap where he probably would have got pole.

He probably had litterally 2 laps of fuel left, perfect tires.. and yes..
I saw it with my own eyes.

He turned into the corner before he slowed down (ie braked).

But he was the only one to do this and it was only on one lap where his car
was setup perfectly.

I just was "gob smacked".. I couldn't believe it, but I definately saw
it...

So now the series of events is...

Lights Red.. lights out... accelerate.. up shift... drive past the
150... past the 100.... past the 50.... turn in... apex.. BRAKE!!!!
:-)

J/K..

James Pickard

by **Stephen Ferguso** » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

> >Maybe he was using engine braking
> >there`s no way he would be in 6th gear
> >just before a turn.

> I've read that indy cars aero-brake at more than 1G just be lifting off at
> about 200 mph. And it is easy to calculate that this is about right.
Throw
> in more wing for a road track and I'd bet even a higher G level. Still,
my
> instructor would have said that you should either be on the gas or on the
> brake, no coasting allowed :-)

> Sorry, don't remember exactly where they were braking when I was a
Montreal at
> the hairpin two years back.

> Off topic, I find it disturbing in F1 sims where I see cars constantly
> shifting down to first gear on turns like T1-T3 at Monza. From what I've
> read, 1st gear is used to start, and come out of the pits, and that's
about it
> (maybe Monaco??). Can't they get this right??

Just change your gears. It's not so disturbing.

Stephen

by **Marc Collin** » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You mean 7th gear....

Marc.

by **mas..** » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

>> Off topic, I find it disturbing in F1 sims where I see cars constantly
>> shifting down to first gear on turns like T1-T3 at Monza. From what I've
>> read, 1st gear is used to start, and come out of the pits, and that's
>about it
>> (maybe Monaco??). Can't they get this right??

>Just change your gears. It's not so disturbing.

You misunderstand me. I mean the AI drivers. I always do my own shifting
(sims and reality). To me, it detracts from the suspension of disbelief when
the AI is doing something that just isn't so. Then again, the manual for F12K
shows a lot of 1st gear turns. Truth or fiction?

rec.autos.simulators

Schumacher turns in before he brakes!!

Schumacher turns in before he brakes!!

Schumacher turns in before he brakes!!

Schumacher turns in before he brakes!!

Schumacher turns in before he brakes!!

Schumacher turns in before he brakes!!