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GP2 *Contest* -- Monza Times

Isaac Wo

GP2 *Contest* -- Monza Times

by Isaac Wo » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00


|>
|>
|> >>By the way - has it been PROVEN yet that keyboard is faster than steering wheel?  
|>
|> >I think it's common knowledge that steering help and opposite lock
|> >help allow to obtain better times more easily, and are MUCH more
|> >forgiving of a wrong setup/wrong driving style.
|>
|> >Nicola Salmoria

|>
|> This is true, but it is more difficult to get an "out of this world" lap time
|> with a keyboard than with a wheel/pedal.  With a keyboard you can get good
|> times easily.  But with a wheel/pedal you can get great times with a lot of
|> practice.

Keyboard: easy to get good and consistent times - agreed. I used to run
100% flawless races in GP1 most of the times (without damage, spins etc.)
with a keyboard. But that's of course with steering help on (impossible
if off using keyboard). Also my feet can rest and when the car is on a
straight, I can move my right hand off the keyboard to pick my nose. ;-)
No, no, that's not true. I can press the "p" key to pause the game whenever
I want to, without directing my attention too far off from steering the
car. But keyboards are not authentic devices to play driving sims.

Since the release of GP2, keyboards don't have the advantage in GP1 anymore.
The primary reason is braking and throttle. It is too easy to spin the wheels
when starting from stand still, and lock up the wheels under braking.
This is particularly serious in braking. Since GP2 I have bought myself a
T2 wheels and pedal combo to play the game. Yes, it does require some getting
used to, and it does take a lot of time to make the setups right, but nothing
is more rewarding than being able to play driving sims the way they are
supposed to be. My T2-achieved times are still far from those obtained by
using keyboard, but I am sure they will improve. I can still get better times
in GP2 by using keyboard, even though it means smoking tires at every braking
point. I even finished 3rd in a 70% race at semi-pro level using keyboard.
(My first ever long race in GP2)

Soon I will stop using the keyboard and concentrate on learning the T2 with
GP2.

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Glenn Davi

GP2 *Contest* -- Monza Times

by Glenn Davi » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Yes, I tried that too and got exactly the same results. Oh well, back
to ICR2...

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* Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so... * Glenn Davies              *

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Quixo

GP2 *Contest* -- Monza Times

by Quixo » Sat, 10 Aug 1996 04:00:00



>> I`ve noticed (as have many others apparently) that using the same
>> setup, fuel load and fresh tyres I am quicker in a qualifying session
>> than a practice.  I`ve definitely noticed a straigtline speed
>> improvement at Monza in qualifying.

>Why not pretending you are just using a qualifying engine of some
>sort?
>Maybe a new version of the engine, good for a few laps but unreliable
>for the whole race or something.

>Bye,
>Luca

Agreed, even if not a qualifying engine, the teams do push the motors much
harder during qualifying than the actual race itself.  In my memory, race laps
are never nearly as fast as qualifying laps.  This may not be the case this
season but has certainly been true in season's past.  Consider the track
records.  The times are always 2 or 3 seconds off.  

As for realism, many teams will fit parts to the car for the qualifying
session that are not yet considered reliable enough for the race.  i.e.
McLaren went with a new Mercedes engine in qualifying at Hockenheim and
switched back to the older version for the race because the new engine's
reliability had not been tested to the point that McLaren felt comfortable.  

Anyway, Ivanhoe, I did notice the difference as well.  Perhaps your team is
subtly varying the tyre compound in violation of FIA rules:) It's only illegal
if you get caught.

eric (who still thinks Ivanhoe is the fastest F1GP racer ever)


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