rec.autos.simulators

> I'll try it again!

> -Larry

> > I've found _some_versions_ of the Daemon tools to cause the occasional
> > issue. But I'm currently on 3.2 and that one works very well here.

> > Achim

> > > I had the "odd" lockup a few weeks ago and traced it back to Daemon
> tools.
> > > Most don't have any issues with the DT defaults but I did, go figure.
> > After
> > > uninstalling all has been fine.

> > > Mitch

> > > > You've still got a few options left.

> > > > I think N2002 did have a problem with the 23.11 drivers the 28.32
and
> > > 29.80
> > > > worked for me.

> > > > From what you write, sound could be a common denominator. Have you
> tried
> > > > disabling sound and see what that does?

> > > > If this doesn't do anything, you could slow down the RAM settings in
> > your
> > > > motherboard's BIOS. Maybe N2002 taxes your system a bit much.

> > > > I assume you aren't overclocking anything, and heat is not a
problem,
> > but
> > > > you might still look into your BIOS and add a waitstate here and
there
> > or
> > > > select a slower timing, to make it more stable. You might also want
to
> > > check
> > > > for interrupt problems.

> > > > The most frequent cause for problems I've seen are background tasks.
> You
> > > > might want to use a Process Viewer to check what's running (Windows'
> > > > Taskmanager isn't enough) and kill everything that shouldn't be
> running.

> > > > Something your graphics card (or an older one) has installed that
> > remained
> > > > in the system are also possible culprits - like menu extensions
etc. -
> > are
> > > > also possible culprits.

> > > > Don't give up hope yet.

> > > > Achim

> > > > > Hah, but now I wish I didn't buy it at first! I know ppl will be
mad
> > at
> > > me
> > > > > for saying this, but I should have d/l'd it first to make sure it
> > works
> > > > and
> > > > > then buy it, oh well...

> > > > > I have the latest patch btw

> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Alex


> > > > > >   hehe I finally found a way to beat you Alex...:)
> > > > > > I hope you get this figured out....nothing jumps out at me.
There
> > are
> > > > two
> > > > > > patches are there not?
> > > > > > dave henrie


> > > > > > > I finally gave in and bought N2002 at my local EB for $45 (!)
> (It
> > > was
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > $40 last time I saw, grr..) even though I have N4, but I
> couldn't
> > > > resist
> > > > > > > racing online again. Anyway, I installed the game, installed
the
> > > > patch,
> > > > > > > changed my resolution to match my desktop's (1024x768x16) and
> > > enetered
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > game. Well, the first time it froze, so I restarted the game.
I
> > > then
> > > > > > > calibrated my wheel, changed the graphics options, and clicked
> > done
> > > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > locked up. I tried this many times, same effect until the comp
> > > locked
> > > > up
> > > > > > > completely. I restarted, tried again, same thing, so then I
> tried
> > > the
> > > > > > > resolution it reccomended (800x600x16) and I could at least
> change
> > > the
> > > > > > > options and save it. Next, I went to do a test day at Watkins
> Glen
> > > and
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > locked up. I had to restart and I tried several different
tracks
> > > with
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > success until it locked up in the middle of driving. By then,
I
> > was
> > > > > > > extremely frustrated, so I tried Open GL, it didn't help,
> > upgrading
> > > my
> > > > > > 23.11
> > > > > > > drivers to the newest ones and that made things even worse.
> Then,
> > I
> > > > > > > uninstalled, cleared the directory, and reinstalled and it
> didn't
> > > > work,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > then I reinstalled the 23.11 drivers and I'm still having the
> same
> > > > > > problems
> > > > > > > without the patch. Any help? Here are my system specs:

> > > > > > > P3 667mhz
> > > > > > > 133mhz system bus
> > > > > > > 192mb of RAM
> > > > > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left
> > > > > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers
> > > > > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled)
> > > > > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network
> > > > > > > MS FF USB Wheel

> > > > > > > Returning the game is not an option because here, EB no longer
> > takes
> > > > > > returns
> > > > > > > on open boxes :(

> > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Alex

> <SNIP>
> > P3 667mhz
> > 133mhz system bus
> > 192mb of RAM
> > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left
> > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers
> > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled)
> > DSL connected through a home wireless network
> > MS FF USB Wheel

> CPU is borderline, but should run it.

> RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB.

> GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run
NR2002
> with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even if
it
> is an MX model.

> I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine
> with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that
GF256,
> you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+
> drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info)

> IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be tough
> but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and
would
> definitely look for a higher end video card too.

> Good luck.

> The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I have
them
> loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quite
long
> w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I even
> exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4
times
> and it worked everytime!

> BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most
> options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, but
I'm
> tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so.

> Thanks for all your help!
> Alex

> > <SNIP>
> > > P3 667mhz
> > > 133mhz system bus
> > > 192mb of RAM
> > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left
> > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers
> > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled)
> > > DSL connected through a home wireless network
> > > MS FF USB Wheel

> > CPU is borderline, but should run it.

> > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB.

> > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run
> NR2002
> > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even
if
> it
> > is an MX model.

> > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine
> > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that
> GF256,
> > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+
> > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info)

> > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be
tough
> > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and
> would
> > definitely look for a higher end video card too.

> > Good luck.

> The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I have
them
> loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quite
long
> w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I even
> exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4
times
> and it worked everytime!

> BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most
> options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, but
I'm
> tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so.

> Thanks for all your help!
> Alex

> > <SNIP>
> > > P3 667mhz
> > > 133mhz system bus
> > > 192mb of RAM
> > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left
> > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers
> > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled)
> > > DSL connected through a home wireless network
> > > MS FF USB Wheel

> > CPU is borderline, but should run it.

> > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB.

> > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run
> NR2002
> > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even
if
> it
> > is an MX model.

> > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine
> > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that
> GF256,
> > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+
> > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info)

> > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be
tough
> > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and
> would
> > definitely look for a higher end video card too.

> > Good luck.

> The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I have
them
> loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quite
long
> w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I even
> exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4
times
> and it worked everytime!

> BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most
> options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, but
I'm
> tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so.

> Thanks for all your help!
> Alex

> > <SNIP>
> > > P3 667mhz
> > > 133mhz system bus
> > > 192mb of RAM
> > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left
> > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers
> > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled)
> > > DSL connected through a home wireless network
> > > MS FF USB Wheel

> > CPU is borderline, but should run it.

> > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB.

> > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run
> NR2002
> > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even
if
> it
> > is an MX model.

> > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be fine
> > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that
> GF256,
> > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+
> > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info)

> > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be
tough
> > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and
> would
> > definitely look for a higher end video card too.

> > Good luck.

> Glad to hear you can at least turn some laps now, enjoy!

> > I downgraded to the 12.51 (or 12.41, somewhere around there, the
official
> > drivers) stated in the HG F1 2001 forums as the best ones when the game
> came
> > out (I had poor performance when F1 2001 first came out, but when I
> changed
> > to those drivers it was silky smooth) The game would work in MP about
10%
> of
> > the time w/o lockup, so I got 1 or 2 races in, and about 2/3rds of the
> time
> > I could get a few laps in in test sessions.

> > The BIG thing that was affecting the game was the Daemon tools. I have
> them
> > loaded for Operation Flahpoint because the copy protection takes quite
> long
> > w/ the CD in. I closed the program, went into N2002, and it worked! I
even
> > exited out and came back on to play online in the past 4 hours or so 4
> times
> > and it worked everytime!

> > BTW, my old GeForce 256 still runs it silky smooth at 30+fps with most
> > options at high or medium. I probably should get a better one soon, but
> I'm
> > tight on money and I can still run new games at 30fps or so.

> > Thanks for all your help!
> > Alex

> > > <SNIP>
> > > > P3 667mhz
> > > > 133mhz system bus
> > > > 192mb of RAM
> > > > 20GB hard drive with 1.5GBs left
> > > > GeForce 256 w/ 23.11 drivers
> > > > Aureal Vortex 2 (3d sound isn't enabled)
> > > > DSL connected through a home wireless network
> > > > MS FF USB Wheel

> > > CPU is borderline, but should run it.

> > > RAM is marginal, I would suggest 256MB of RAM minimum, I run 1024MB.

> > > GF256 is a SERIOUS issue. I have a friend who tried and tired to run
> > NR2002
> > > with a GF256 and could get no satisfaction. You need a 64MB card, even
> if
> > it
> > > is an MX model.

> > > I did not see a mention of your OS. If it is Win98SE, you should be
fine
> > > with the drivers (though the 20+ level drivers are not made for that
> > GF256,
> > > you may try something below 23.11, like in the 16's or 17's. The 20+
> > > drivers are for GF2-3-4 lines, check guru3d.com for the latest info)

> > > IF you are trying to run the sim in WinXP with that rig, it will be
> tough
> > > but can be done. I'd definitely juice up the RAM, to 512MB or more and
> > would
> > > definitely look for a higher end video card too.

> > > Good luck.