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N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

Alastair Ingra

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Alastair Ingra » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:54:08

There is nothing wrong with my setup or my computer or my ability to get
around on my computer. Check out my website. I have played and patched lots
of games, none has failed to work completely. I'm glad it worked for you.
You are obviously a Nascar fan. Put yourself in my shoes. How would you
feel?

--
Alastair Ingram
www.saxlessons.com

Nas1

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Nas1 » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:31:09

Oh, now you tell the whole story.
<insert Eldred voice>
Oh, that's DIFFERENT.  Nevermind...

--
Nas1


> That was funny, Eldred. O.K. Here is the deal. I bought N4 for $50.00. It
> installed fine. I could not get it to run. Period. I got the cracked .exe
> and ran the game against the AI. I could not go online. I found the AI
wacky
> and several "buggy" behaviors. I guess I am not a Nascar fan because I
found
> it boring and very easy to drive. Nothing like GPL. I returned the game
> because I thought I should be able to race online. Also, I didn't feel it
> was necessary to go to all the BS of Clone CD and doing this or that to
get
> it to work. Dave, I do have a bad attitude when I pay good money for a
> product that doesn't work properly. Don't you? After all, your website is
> buycoolcrap.com. This, to me, was not cool crap. Just crap.  Getting a
> refund was the right solution for me because where I bought it won't
accept
> returns of software. I am grateful that Sierra at least provided this
> option. I sincerely hope that all of you who are enjoying N4 continue to
> enjoy it.

> --
> Alastair Ingram
> www.saxlessons.com



> writes:

> > >Eldred,

> > >I mentioned CloneCD per his subject line although looking at it again I
> > >guess he was referring to the problems people have had getting it to
> install
> > >on some CD-ROMS. Still, from what I'm reading from his message, in one
> > >breath he did install it and found it boring and full of bugs, but in
> that
> > >same breath he said it wouldn't work. This just doesn't make sense to
me
> and
> > >yes, "he says" he found bugs and errors, not from reading through these
> > >groups.

> > Oh, he said *he* found the errors...?
> > <insert Emily Litella voice>
> > Oh, that's DIFFERENT.  Nevermind...

> > Eldred
> > --
> > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001
> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73

> > Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
> you
> > with experience...
> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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Alastair Ingra

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Alastair Ingra » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:12:12

Yeh, like I'm the only one.

--
Alastair Ingram
www.saxlessons.com

> Oh, now you tell the whole story.
> <insert Eldred voice>
> Oh, that's DIFFERENT.  Nevermind...

> --
> Nas1



> > That was funny, Eldred. O.K. Here is the deal. I bought N4 for $50.00.
It
> > installed fine. I could not get it to run. Period. I got the cracked
.exe
> > and ran the game against the AI. I could not go online. I found the AI
> wacky
> > and several "buggy" behaviors. I guess I am not a Nascar fan because I
> found
> > it boring and very easy to drive. Nothing like GPL. I returned the game
> > because I thought I should be able to race online. Also, I didn't feel
it
> > was necessary to go to all the BS of Clone CD and doing this or that to
> get
> > it to work. Dave, I do have a bad attitude when I pay good money for a
> > product that doesn't work properly. Don't you? After all, your website
is
> > buycoolcrap.com. This, to me, was not cool crap. Just crap.  Getting a
> > refund was the right solution for me because where I bought it won't
> accept
> > returns of software. I am grateful that Sierra at least provided this
> > option. I sincerely hope that all of you who are enjoying N4 continue to
> > enjoy it.

> > --
> > Alastair Ingram
> > www.saxlessons.com



> > writes:

> > > >Eldred,

> > > >I mentioned CloneCD per his subject line although looking at it again
I
> > > >guess he was referring to the problems people have had getting it to
> > install
> > > >on some CD-ROMS. Still, from what I'm reading from his message, in
one
> > > >breath he did install it and found it boring and full of bugs, but in
> > that
> > > >same breath he said it wouldn't work. This just doesn't make sense to
> me
> > and
> > > >yes, "he says" he found bugs and errors, not from reading through
these
> > > >groups.

> > > Oh, he said *he* found the errors...?
> > > <insert Emily Litella voice>
> > > Oh, that's DIFFERENT.  Nevermind...

> > > Eldred
> > > --
> > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001
> > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73

> > > Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then
beats
> > you
> > > with experience...
> > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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Alk

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Alk » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:18:11




>>I'm telling you guys...

>>death of the GPL engine.

>Depends. Are they returning it because it is too hard or because of
>the silly copy protection won't allow them to run the game at all?

Probably because they used CloneCD, made a copy and then returned the
software with the lame excuse that it doesn't work.
I have a Voodoo3 with a 500 Athelon and 128 megs ram... and it works just
fine!!  I could use a GeForce card but I don't have the cash to spare right
now for that and will just run with slightly blurry cars, no big thang!
fistyc..

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by fistyc.. » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:12:22




>>I'm telling you guys...

>>death of the GPL engine.

>Depends. Are they returning it because it is too hard or because of
>the silly copy protection won't allow them to run the game at all?

well i would say that its the ai for one you cant hardly get around
the track with out them taking you out in one way or another it is no
where near as good a heat graphics wise i would not tell anyone to buy
this game at all its a down grade to n3 not up
Jagg

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Jagg » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:32:00


>well i would say that its the ai for one you cant hardly get around
>the track with out them taking you out in one way or another it is no
>where near as good a heat graphics wise i would not tell anyone to buy
>this game at all its a down grade to n3 not up

Well, the physics engine in N3 is pitiful in comparison. And the cars
jitter when they come into a closer view in N3 also.
fistyc..

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by fistyc.. » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 04:13:10



>Well, the physics engine in N3 is pitiful in comparison. And the cars
>jitter when they come into a closer view in N3 also.

well that is a given but you have to admit that n4 should have really
been a fix for n3 and not whole new game
Tim

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Tim » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:46:43

Its not a whole new game
Its GPL II
:)

Seriously, Papy has been fairly consistent with patches in the past so
theres still hope




> >Well, the physics engine in N3 is pitiful in comparison. And the cars
> >jitter when they come into a closer view in N3 also.

> well that is a given but you have to admit that n4 should have really
> been a fix for n3 and not whole new game

Ronnie Bigwhi

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Ronnie Bigwhi » Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:28:25

 The ai cars dont take you out unless you arent paying attention, or you
drive like you own the track, u want em to just move outta the way or what?
lol





> >>I'm telling you guys...

> >>death of the GPL engine.

> >Depends. Are they returning it because it is too hard or because of
> >the silly copy protection won't allow them to run the game at all?

> well i would say that its the ai for one you cant hardly get around
> the track with out them taking you out in one way or another it is no
> where near as good a heat graphics wise i would not tell anyone to buy
> this game at all its a down grade to n3 not up

Ronnie Bigwhi

N4 - How I solved the bogus copy protection scheme.

by Ronnie Bigwhi » Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:32:37

 I think they really screwed up bad with the copy protection bull.
 I think that kind of stuff will really gaive all the hackers a good laugh.
Clone CD just tottally defeats the copy protection anyway lol.


> Yeh, like I'm the only one.

> --
> Alastair Ingram
> www.saxlessons.com


> > Oh, now you tell the whole story.
> > <insert Eldred voice>
> > Oh, that's DIFFERENT.  Nevermind...

> > --
> > Nas1



> > > That was funny, Eldred. O.K. Here is the deal. I bought N4 for $50.00.
> It
> > > installed fine. I could not get it to run. Period. I got the cracked
> .exe
> > > and ran the game against the AI. I could not go online. I found the AI
> > wacky
> > > and several "buggy" behaviors. I guess I am not a Nascar fan because I
> > found
> > > it boring and very easy to drive. Nothing like GPL. I returned the
game
> > > because I thought I should be able to race online. Also, I didn't feel
> it
> > > was necessary to go to all the BS of Clone CD and doing this or that
to
> > get
> > > it to work. Dave, I do have a bad attitude when I pay good money for a
> > > product that doesn't work properly. Don't you? After all, your website
> is
> > > buycoolcrap.com. This, to me, was not cool crap. Just crap.  Getting a
> > > refund was the right solution for me because where I bought it won't
> > accept
> > > returns of software. I am grateful that Sierra at least provided this
> > > option. I sincerely hope that all of you who are enjoying N4 continue
to
> > > enjoy it.

> > > --
> > > Alastair Ingram
> > > www.saxlessons.com





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