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I must really suck

Michael Basde

I must really suck

by Michael Basde » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:00:31

I find that force feedback really helps you catch the car early before there
are any visible signs of an on-coming spin.

But I assure you that 'most' people here play them with no driving aids.  :)


jason moy

I must really suck

by jason moy » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:16:29


> Hmmm... not sure what the controller is set as(joystick or wheel), just
> whatever it came up as. I went through the calibration setup in game, with
> no problems. Since writing the original post I can now run pretty good laps
> at daytona and talladega. Coca Cola is still pretty hard though, but you
> guys where right.. just takes practice. One more question though. I have my
> linerity set to 85%... .should it be lower or higher.

Christian, it depends on the accuracy of your wheel.  Using a USB
wheel you should be able to use 100% linearity without a problem (100%
= same input response as a real car).  However, depending on your
wheel, 100% may be too twitchy.  What I would recommend is to set it
to 100%, turn on "moving steering wheel" in the graphics options, and
then get in the car and see if the wheel twitches (you may get a tiny
bit of twitchiness with the wheel turned all the way to either side,
but the most important thing is having smooth input around the
center).  If it does, slowly lower the linearity until the twitching
stops.  Running with the linearity at 100% may take a bit to get used
to, but trust me, it's better to get used to it now while you're
starting than to have to readjust your driving style later.  If you do
find that the steering responds too quickly (i.e. normal input makes
the car spin) my recommendation would be to just practice and use less
input.  Once you've practiced some more, you should be able to turn
respectable laps at almost every track with almost no wheel movement
(at Daytona, for instance, you should be turning a tiiiiiny bit
entering the turn and then the wheel should be almost centered until
the exit, where you'll actually need to steer right a little).

Also, while you'll be slower than you need to be to race online, start
out with the easy setups.  They're meant for people who are new to
racing sims.  They don't tend to turn by themselves as well, so you'll
need to use a bit more steering input than with the fast setups (which
are the setups usually used in fixed-setup races) but they're a lot
more forgiving of mistakes.

Finally, don't waste your time in 'Arcade' mode.  You'll learn nothing
about how to really drive one of these cars and if you've already
invested money in the game/wheel as well as finding r.a.s. I'm sure
you're interested in really driving these beasts, not piddling around
with Daytona USA 2002. =)

Jason

Christia

I must really suck

by Christia » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:48:22

Jason,
  Thanks for the reply.. great advice. =)

-cb



George Lewi

I must really suck

by George Lewi » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 12:50:25

Christian,
I've got the Thrustmaster Pro Digital (not the "2" model) but they are
basically the same.  What OS are you running?  I'm running XP with a 3
axis 8 button driving controller in the game controllers part of
settings/control panel.  In NR2002,  Axis 2 for the steering, Axis 0
for the throttle and Axis 1 for the brake.  this is using the direct
input driver.

You should be able to have a separate axis for the throtlle than the
brake.  You may be able to run the thrustmaster software for your
wheel and detach the throttle and brake so they are on their own axis.
The idea for example at Daytona is to keep your foot on the gas at all
times and tap the brake to maintain the draft.  If you take your foot
off of the gas you'll lose momentum.  

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:00:09 -0800, "Christian"


>Hmmm... not sure what the controller is set as(joystick or wheel), just
>whatever it came up as. I went through the calibration setup in game, with
>no problems. Since writing the original post I can now run pretty good laps
>at daytona and talladega. Coca Cola is still pretty hard though, but you
>guys where right.. just takes practice. One more question though. I have my
>linerity set to 85%... .should it be lower or higher. And I noticed that my
>wheel is taking axis 0 in the calibration screen, and my throttle brake
>pedals are sharing axis 2... is this normal? Thanks for you help!

>-Christian





>> > I've been playing Nascar 2002 for a couple of days now. Just bought it
>> > and a wheel/pedels on a whim. Ive been having a lot of fun... until I
>> > found out I was using all of the drivers aids. Ok so I turned them all
>> > off. WTF??? its completely impossible to drive now. Tell me
>> > truthfully... how many of you can drive without traction control and
>> > steering assistance? It is soo hard, I can barley make it into 4th on
>> > daytona befor spinning wildly out of control on the straights even. Do
>> > I just suck or is it possible? I am using a thrustmaster pro digital 2
>> > wheel and pedal combo... is this whats up? Please help, I was having
>> > so much fun.. I even won a race online, but now I feel like I cheated.

>> > Christian
>>   do you have your controller in N2002 setup for a joystick or a wheel?
>and
>> is the linerity slider set more to the left or right?  There is always a
>> breaking in period when longtime joystick or keyboard users take up a
>wheel,
>> but use paitience and a light touch on your wheel and you'll get the hang
>of
>> it.
>> dave henrie

Philste

I must really suck

by Philste » Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:58:38

A lower linearity might be easier to control I use 70% with my wheel.


> Hmmm... not sure what the controller is set as(joystick or wheel), just
> whatever it came up as. I went through the calibration setup in game, with
> no problems. Since writing the original post I can now run pretty good laps
> at daytona and talladega. Coca Cola is still pretty hard though, but you
> guys where right.. just takes practice. One more question though. I have my
> linerity set to 85%... .should it be lower or higher. And I noticed that my
> wheel is taking axis 0 in the calibration screen, and my throttle brake
> pedals are sharing axis 2... is this normal? Thanks for you help!

> -Christian





> > > I've been playing Nascar 2002 for a couple of days now. Just bought it
> > > and a wheel/pedels on a whim. Ive been having a lot of fun... until I
> > > found out I was using all of the drivers aids. Ok so I turned them all
> > > off. WTF??? its completely impossible to drive now. Tell me
> > > truthfully... how many of you can drive without traction control and
> > > steering assistance? It is soo hard, I can barley make it into 4th on
> > > daytona befor spinning wildly out of control on the straights even. Do
> > > I just suck or is it possible? I am using a thrustmaster pro digital 2
> > > wheel and pedal combo... is this whats up? Please help, I was having
> > > so much fun.. I even won a race online, but now I feel like I cheated.

> > > Christian
> >   do you have your controller in N2002 setup for a joystick or a wheel?
> and
> > is the linerity slider set more to the left or right?  There is always a
> > breaking in period when longtime joystick or keyboard users take up a
> wheel,
> > but use paitience and a light touch on your wheel and you'll get the hang
> of
> > it.
> > dave henrie

--
Philippe "Philster" Sergerie

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