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I'm green.

So can to some extent, based on the stereo support that's included.
Logically one would say that if you've got stereo then what more can
there be. This is what I would have said until I heard the 3D
positioning software/hardware solutions from Aureal.

 There is a huge improvement over just plain stereo. They do this by
simulating the way the human brain/ears lean to position sound
sources. Of course unless you happen to have one of the relevant sound
cards then there are no words to try to describe it. You need to hear
it.

You can go to http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Yes I now run 16 sounds. Its great to hear all the surrounding sounds
and background noises.

Phillip McNelley

Hena

simulating the way the human brain/ears lean to position sound
sources. Of course unless you happen to have one of the relevant sound
cards then there are no words to try to describe it. You need to hear
it.

You can go to http://www.aureal.com/tech/ to read about it.<

My Compaq has built-in Aureal 3D support, so I've played with their neat
little demos....maybe you've seen one...the bee flying around your head
thing. It's neat, but it seems like I get a lot of that effect with GPL and
the SB Live now. I can tell, for example, as a car makes the transition from
my left rear to right rear. Anyway, I just didn't find the Aureal demo that
much more impressive than what I find in GPL now. But, I'm sure that if they
in fact built 3-D sound in I'd be overcome. LOL. :)

While we're on the subject of GPL sound, try this when you get a chance.
Shortly after I got the SB Live and cranked the number of sounds to 16, I'm
racing down toward the Gasworks hairpin at Monaco. As I had often heard in
the past, I heard the sound of the front of the field racing up the adjacent
front straight. But startlingly, the bulk of that sound seemed to be to my
left.

Surprised by the sound's location, I realized that perhaps there's some
pretty sophisticated 3-D sound modeling going on. If you think about that
particular section of Monaco, you'll recall that there are some relatively
tall buildings on the left hand side of the front straight, a wall
separating the two adjacent straights, and a wall to your left as you race
toward Gasworks.

See where I'm headed with this? I'm no acoustics engineer, but my conclusion
was that sound from the cars on the front straight was reflected off the
buildings and then off the wall to my left and into my left ear, though the
source of the sound was actually to my right. Could this be? It would be
very interesting to hear what insight Randy Cassidy might have to offer!

Jack Rambo

www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

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Ian Parker

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So what if the comments were made early in GPL's release and before? They
were strongly against it. That was still only 5-7 months ago. They must of
begun work on ff for GPL X months ago. I'm curious as to why such a sudden
change of opinion.

David G Fisher

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Cheers!
John

% So what if the comments were made early in GPL's release and before? They
% were strongly against it. That was still only 5-7 months ago. They must of
% begun work on ff for GPL X months ago. I'm curious as to why such a sudden
% change of opinion.

% David G Fisher

Basically from what I understand it was done to frustrate the hell out
of you David.  It seems that Papyrus' sole pleasure in life is to see
your well thought out and constructed posts to r.a.s. <G>

What I do know is, that although Papyrus was not happy with FF (both in
it's instruction set, latency issues, and adaptation), they continued to
work on incoporating it into their products.  They had no intention of
holding up GPL's release until they could get FF the way they wanted to.
From my sources in the wheel industry, Papyrus has been in close contact
and have been working with some of the companies that have FF units on
means of making FF work they way that Papyrus wants to see it work.  In
case you haven't noticed, Papyrus does not seem to be prone to putting
"gimmics" into their simulations just to make the buying public happy.
Almost everything they put into their simulations are there to make it
more realistic and to provide "cues" the user.  At the time of the
release of GPL, the designers still felt that FF would have just been a
gimmic addition to GPL (and because of the latency issues, they chose
not to bog down GPL's performance by including it).

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Good grief!  A software company more concerned with quality and realism than
with pumping out gimmicky features to boost short-term sales?  What's this
world coming to? :-)

Nuclear Chickens?  WTF?  I had a 'Nuclear Chicken' join a VROC race I hosted.
Was that you? :)

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