rec.autos.simulators

Crapwagons strike again =(

Larr

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Larr » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 03:16:06

Now that's a damned shame :(

-Larry



Race15

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Race15 » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:20:18

The "crapwagons" are designed by the following people

The current G-Force IRL car is by Simon Marshall and Ben Bowlby, who are also
the designers of the current Lola CART car.

The chief designer of the Dallara IRL car is Luca Pignacca, one of the most
accomplished race car designers alive today.

Dave Henri

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Dave Henri » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:57:35



   We are not discounting the abilities of these designers, but the rules
framework they must operate under could be the culprit.  Realize too
another problem...these cars were designed to run about 220mph tops.  Now
with the former CART engine suppliers onboard, the irlbuggies are far
exceeding that speed. No *** theories yet, just an observation, the
lap times this year were way lower than seasons past.  Perhaps the design
limits of the irl spec have been breached.
dave henrie

Race15

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Race15 » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:16:45

Where did you get this information...or is it opinion?

Mike

Bruce Kennewel

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Bruce Kennewel » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:55:10

He is?
How many F1 design strings does he have to his bow?

Bruce.


Race15

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Race15 » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:01:41

How many F1 design strings does he have to his bow?

Bruce.>>

I would try to find out, but i would guess by your response...ZERO?  :)

Mike

Dave Henri

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Dave Henri » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:05:20



  YEs just opionion based on the speeds I think they were turning at most
tracks.  I think they qualified at around 221 at Indy for the first few
years and at Texas, where the CART cars were exceeding 230mph and causing
G-force induced near blackouts...the IRL cars were under 220mph there in
past years.  So I was guesstimating the design spec speed target.  Which I
think has been exceeded.

dave henrie

Race15

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Race15 » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:28

tracks.  I think they qualified at around 221 at Indy for the first few
years and at Texas, where the CART cars were exceeding 230mph and causing
G-force induced near blackouts...the IRL cars were under 220mph there in
past years.  So I was guesstimating the design spec speed target.  Which I
think has been exceeded.

dave henrie>>

Dave, just came from the Dallara website and they said the cars are designed
for 240+ speeds.  Certainly not much more than 220, but within the boundaries
of how fast they have been going.

Dave Henri

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Dave Henri » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:32:04


   ok good digging. Thanks

Bruce Kennewel

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:08:05

No idea, Mike.
It wasn't a rhetorical question.....I just hadn't heard of the bloke before
your mention of him.

Bruce.



rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.