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Scott B. Husted

Crapwagons strike again =(

by Scott B. Husted » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:22:07

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Gerry Aitke

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by Gerry Aitke » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:28:15


> http://espn.go.com/rpm/irl/2003/1022/1644023.html

Oval tracks are the real problem. All that concrete!

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by Phillip Malphrus, Jr » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:41:09

I think the real problem are those cars that aren't designed to withstand a
high impact, high speed accident into a catch fence that rips them to
shreads, maybe they should be redesigning either the cars or the fences ...



> http://espn.go.com/rpm/irl/2003/1022/1644023.html

Oval tracks are the real problem. All that concrete!

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Eldre

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by Eldre » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:57:56

Dammit...not again...
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Dan_Leac

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by Dan_Leac » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:41:24

:,(
Bill Kenned

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by Bill Kenned » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:40:45

Hello all,
I dont know Tony Renna personally, but i live in Deland Florida where
he was born. He is ( and will always be) kind of a local hero here .There is
a
resturant here i think he use to work at called Gators.They have alot of
posters of Tony
and pictures of him there. Everyone there was pretty e***d to see him at
Indy this year. just thought i should say some here about him. Ive heard
people talk about
him here and it was always a kind word about him.
RIP Tony Renna

BillK

Sting3

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by Sting3 » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:46:48

it is time to take the wings off those damn things, especially for ovals.
Same for NASCAR, no spoilers (front or rear) and I personally would make
them all run street tires (read: tires with tread) only...  then lets see em
race.

I don't care if you like CART, Rally, or any racing class, it is truly sad
that a person died, even if it was while attaining his dream/goals...

RIP Tony.

<moment of silence>
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Bamada

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by Bamada » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:32:11

RIP
Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:05:52

A sad day...
btgos

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by btgos » Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:01:42

I hope they pave all areas of the track that a car could potentially touch
while at racing speeds. It seems that the transition from grass to pavement,
at the speeds of an indy car, was what launched the car over the SAFER
barrier. I know when NASCAR paved larger sections of some of the
superspeedways that did have an impact on the number of cars that caught
air, but that might not be enough.
The catchfence idea is one that works fairly well at smaller tracks, where
the speeds aren't so great, and the cars are not meant to break apart.
Perhaps these two recent events have shown that it is not an idea that works
with todays modern open wheel cars.

RIP Tony Renna, I only hope his family can find the comfort that they need
at this time.

Dan Belch

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by Dan Belch » Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:57:49

Renna never touched the concrete--he went straight into the catchfence...

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by The Black Cat =^..^ » Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:28:10


And that's the great mystery about this.  I can see a car getting
airborne if it makes contact with another car, but this one seems to
have taken off all on it's own.  And I live just north of Indy and can
testify there were no freaky winds yesterday either.  I just don't
understand what could have caused this and nobody's saying anything.

Fillyourboot

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by Fillyourboot » Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:08:58

As i understand it, he deviated slightly to the inside of T3 and caught a
little grass - the suggestion being that air got underneath the tub and this
was the key in launching the car over the wall.

Now read that again and ask yourself - freak accident, or a statistical
certainty owing to an inherently bad car design. Should a single seater
pitch itself like that?

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The Enigmatic O

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by The Enigmatic O » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:49:54


says...

No, not really.  I'd say there were enough airborne IRL cars this year to
point to a real problem.  One that the IRL better put a lot of work into
solving during this offseason.

                                        -Tim

The Enigmatic O

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by The Enigmatic O » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:51:06


says...

Heh.  Now that's funny.  You do realize that, in the interest of safety, they
removed a lot of pavement and put in grass about 12 or so years ago, right?

                                        -Tim


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