-Larry
-Larry
> >Greets,
> >I know this subject may ruffle some feathers, but I just have to share
> >these thoughts with someone. I'm mindful how Fox/Speedvision bullied
> >their way into the F1 spotlight
> bullied??? huh?? Money talks.
> > and I get the same feeling about their
> >association with NASCAR. All along as we were being introduced to the
> >Fox way of presenting/marketing NASCAR, I just felt that something
> >wasn't right. Could the association of Fox and NASCAR be doomed?
> Here we go again, everyone knew that the crazies were just looking to jump
> on that. Geeez, get original.
> > Things
> >were going fairly good with the series before.
> No they weren't, coverage sucked and attendance has plummeted to around
40%.
> Do you know what you are talking about?
> >But, now (in the first
> >race of the season and the first carried by Fox) it seems the series is
> >very clouded and surreal.
> What's clouded? What's surreal? A race, someone died, and there will be a
> race next weekend and we will all watch it, no matter what station carries
> it.
> > I have many thoughts bouncing around in my
> >head. Thoughts of who will continue to participate, and who will bail
> >out.
> You need to stop thinking; bail out? Everyone will be there next week,
want
> to bet on it? Except DE, of course.
> > Thoughts of which driver will be the next to die.
> You sound like a wussy ***, hopefully you.
> >Thoughts of just
> >what this series is actually about.
> It's not about fans like you.
> > In retrospect, it seems almost as if
> >the series is actually proud of the morbid nature of itself.
> Geez, you finally figured that out, what a rocket scientist you are.
> >Witness the
> >many fabled demises of talented drivers of it's past. And how the
> >stories remain as medals and testament to the heroism and sacrifice
> >made; just to be the newest martyr to the great NASCAR empire.
> Holy shit!!! Are you some strugling sad ass poet? Nascar empire??? What
the
> *** are you talking about?
> > I'm just
> >not sure I can remain behind the series.
> Good!!!! Thank God and while you're not going to follow the series
anymore,
> don't post here while you're at it.
> >But, damn, what is it that really draws
> >us to this world?
> Holy shit!!! Go die somewhere!
> >I hope it goes beyond the morbid curiosity that dwells
> >within us all.
> No, it seems that it definitely dwells in you though - sicko!!!
> >Please forgive me if I've offended you.
> Actually, you offend in general but most of all you offended yourself.
> > But I have to
> >know that NASCAR refuses to retire numbers for reasons other than that
> >they will eventually run out of numbers if they retire the numbers of
> >all it's gladiators who die in battle.
> Of course, they only have a limited amount of numbers worth having.
> Gladiators??? You are a fag aren't you?
> > All thoughts welcome. Let's get
> >through this together.
> Get through what, you sick ***ing DE worshiping piece of shit. Had it
been
> Gordon who died last week, you wouldn't be such a wuss puss, you'd
probably
> be hoopin and hollerin, you true faggy self has shown itself, now follow
in
> your leaders footsteps and kill yourself.
> DE had it coming and so do you!
| - Gordon rocks and Earnhardt rots!
| The wreck didn't take DE's life, it was FOX!
|
| JB
Hey, look, DGF! Your typical NASCAR fan!
(How much did you have to pay him to post that here?)
"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
> --
Pit reporting was so-so, not quite as agressive in spotting trouble situations
as the old guard was. Some of the questions asked by the rookies were weak
(asking about food??? this isn't Martha Stewart's place, it's *Tony*
Stewarts). Daytona is a very unforgiving place for rookies.
They didn't follow many particular storylines: how the rookies were faring,
who was gaining on the pit stops, who was losing - and why. The one cut tire
was well handled though. The one they did follow was the performance of the
Dodge. That's going to be an ongoing story.
Fox seems to be so greedy with it's newly purchased toy that it won't let
Speedvision (of wich it partially owns) continue with Inside Winston Cup. I
think that when Fox came in, they thought they'd bought something like the WWF,
and now they're finding out that they didn't get quite what they're bargained
for. For the price they paid for it, they need to work on drumming up support
for NASCAR - even and especially when it doesn't necessarily serve their
immediate best interest.
Am I asking a lot? Maybe. Then again, I'm just hoping that NASCAR survives
this marriage. Personnally, I think that this might be like a heavyweight
title fight: it might be scheduled for 15 rounds, but it won't go the
distance. Question is, who would pay who for the divorce? As a followup, and
of no small importance: how much?
I think NASCAR was blinded by the dollar signs, and when the licence comes up
for auction again, it could find that the second price will set a record low.
> >> As for the #3, who in the hell would drive it?
> >To my mind, the #3 in NASCAR is like the #99 in Hockey, or the Bulls #23 in
> >Basketball. Other drivers will not go near that number for a long, long
> >time.
> You really are funny.
> You must not pay attention much. You missed the # 24 compared to # 3 in
> baseball. Who was DE anyway - I have forgotten so fast. 200 wins vs. 76 or
> so. Do you know how to read? Gordon has about 1/3 the starts of DE yet has
> 2/3 the wins, that's twice as better. In 6 years he made 2nd all time in
> money earned and in two years will be #1. I could go on and on. the
> comparison isn't even there - Gordon rocks and Earnhardt rots!
> >Greets,
> >I know this subject may ruffle some feathers, but I just have to share
<SLASH>
> DE had it coming and so do you!
> Greets,
> I know this subject may ruffle some feathers, but I just have to share
> these thoughts with someone. I'm mindful how Fox/Speedvision bullied
> their way into the F1 spotlight and I get the same feeling about their
> association with NASCAR.
<SNIP>
> But I have to
> know that NASCAR refuses to retire numbers for reasons other than that
> they will eventually run out of numbers if they retire the numbers of
> all it's gladiators who die in battle. All thoughts welcome. Let's get
> through this together.
> Later,
> Tony Long
Holy Bible, Book of James, chapter 3, verse 8...
"But the tongue can no man tame, it is an unruly evil, full of deadly
poison."
And Jesus said in the book of Matthew, chapter 15, verse 11:
"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth the man; but that which
cometh out of the mouth, this defileth the man."
> Greets,
> I know this subject may ruffle some feathers
<SNIP>
> All thoughts welcome. Let's get
> through this together.
> Later,
> Tony Long
I'll assume you are refering to Petty, who got most of his wins in an
era where they raced 60-70 races a season. So you look pretty stupid
there.
Do you know how to read? Gordon has about 1/3 the starts of DE yet has
Twice as better? Ok, first, go to www.hookedonphonics.com so you can
try to learn to read and write. Then, go to www.hookedonnumbers.com so
you can learn to count. I count 3 Cups for Gordon (no offense, I have
much respect for the Boy Wonder) and 7 Cups for Earnhardt.
Hmmm..........Let me check my math.........That's 4 more Cups for
Earnhardt. Gordon might catch him someday, but right now, no
comparison.
In 6 years he made 2nd all time in
<sigh>.........Why all the ignorance? That's ok, someday, you'll rot
in hell for being the ass that you make yourself out to be.
3. Stop playing 4 minutes of commercials every 9 laps. (I know, they
have to pay for that TV deal somehow)
Todd
Todd
> Fox didn't cause Earnhardt's crash. I didn't get to see the entire
> broadcast, but I was pretty impressed with Fox's work on the race.
> They had lots of in car cameras, and a cool, sweeping camera that
> followed the cars down the track from the infield.
> I was expecting the worst from the commentators based on Fox's
> over-done football coverage, but thought they did a good job.
> Tim
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:36:49 GMT, Tony
> >Greets,
> >I know this subject may ruffle some feathers, but I just have to share
> >these thoughts with someone. I'm mindful how Fox/Speedvision bullied
> >their way into the F1 spotlight and I get the same feeling about their
> >association with NASCAR. All along as we were being introduced to the
> >Fox way of presenting/marketing NASCAR, I just felt that something
> >wasn't right. Could the association of Fox and NASCAR be doomed? Things
> >were going fairly good with the series before. But, now (in the first
> >race of the season and the first carried by Fox) it seems the series is
> >very clouded and surreal. I have many thoughts bouncing around in my
> >head. Thoughts of who will continue to participate, and who will bail
> >out. Thoughts of which driver will be the next to die. Thoughts of just
> >what this series is actually about. In retrospect, it seems almost as if
> >the series is actually proud of the morbid nature of itself. Witness the
> >many fabled demises of talented drivers of it's past. And how the
> >stories remain as medals and testament to the heroism and sacrifice
> >made; just to be the newest martyr to the great NASCAR empire. I'm just
> >not sure I can remain behind the series. Sure, I'll always peek into the
> >sport to see who is doing what. But, damn, what is it that really draws
> >us to this world? I hope it goes beyond the morbid curiosity that dwells
> >within us all. Please forgive me if I've offended you. But I have to
> >know that NASCAR refuses to retire numbers for reasons other than that
> >they will eventually run out of numbers if they retire the numbers of
> >all it's gladiators who die in battle. All thoughts welcome. Let's get
> >through this together.
> >Later,
> >Tony Long
Yep, that was the biggest bonehead move that NASCAR (Not Fox, it wasn't
Fox's decision to make.) has made in a long time. The Fox daily show is
pitiful. ESPN, even with having to interview drivers at a marina, is still
head and shoulders above their level.