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Chasing Tales

Mitch_

Chasing Tales

by Mitch_ » Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:16:02

If you love dogs you'll know how hard it is to watch. For neurological or
physiological reasons, a dog may spend hours chasing his tail. If he catches
it and causes injury it could, if left untreated, cause further injury and
worsen the whirling behavior.

I sense five perceptions to this problem.

To the dog: His tail preoccupies him for long periods of time. It is the
reason for, and the solution to, all of his problems. Left untreated, he
will chase it until hunger, thirst, or fatigue overtakes him. When rested,
he will continue his pursuit. Until treatment, training, and rehabilitation
are provided, the dog will likely die after breathlessly wasting his life.
To pet owners: The disturbing behavior interferes with their otherwise
healthy relationship with the family pet. Tail-chasing also distracts him
from the security that comes with his territorial instincts.
To underdeveloped ***s: Like ***, a tortured dog can provide hours of
entertainment, especially for those desperate to relieve their own pain.
To disinterested neighbors: Although annoying, the dog seems active and
fully engaged.
To criminals: Whirling dogs are too busy to protect territory or confront
evil.
So how did whirling dogs get my attention? If you said "global warming" you
would be correct!

Let me explain:

The dog's tail presents an imagined source of anxiety. Healthy dogs hardly
notice their tails until caught in a door or stepped on. But to mentally
disturbed animals, their obsessive compulsion resembles the paranormal
hysteria that preoccupies our global warming alarmists.

Except for the meteorologists and climatologists who have studied our skies
for centuries, most people hardly notice the weather until the game gets
rained out. But to Al Gore, hot and cold days, thickening and melting ice,
rain and drought, day and night, deserts and mountains all remind him of his
scabbed little tale. If***was alone in this endeavor he'd be viewed as a
deranged mongrel that needs help. The difference is that, this time,***
has convinced other dogs to enlist more dogs to chase their tails and to
recruit other whirling crazies, as if scouting for the canine version of
Dance Fever.

The pet owners represent the grown-ups of America. Those of us who embrace
what Thomas Sowell describes as a "significant stake in society" look at the
weather as the inexact science it is. Unless you belong to the Flat Earth
Society you'll agree that the planet has warmed considerably since the Ice
Age. But how can we believe scientists can predict the next 100,000 years
when AccuWeather barely grasps the next 100 hours? And when leftist
politicians dismiss internationally-recognized climatologists (1,2,3) for
their heliocentric blasphemy, it's time for America's grown-ups to call the
dog whisperer.

America's underdeveloped ***s will resist. After all, these cultists have
invested much time and energy in the global warming tale. The *** of
concerts, fundraising, domestic terrorism, moonbat romances, and political
enablers feel too good to surrender to the dysphoric sobriety of a wasted
life. Like the seduced child who is suddenly too old for his priest, America's
moonbats have wasted too much of their lives to chase another tale. But
before they start passing the Kool-Aid I have some good news - there's
always Obama and "racial profiling."

America's disinterested neighbors are too preoccupied with their own lives
to worry one way or the other. They hear Al Gore's growling snarls and
suppose he's doing what dogs do.***sounds really busy, he stays active,
and he makes lots of impressive noises, so he must know what he's doing. And
regardless of what Gore's up to, the neighbors are too busy working, raising
families, punching clocks, baking cookies, and suing corporations to worry
about Gore's tale. They know that when the dust settles,***will take a
well-deserved nap. After all, he's been busy protecting the planet from
greenhouse gases. I'm amazed that secular moonbats so willingly genuflect to
cow farts. No wonder they chase their tails.

Criminals are a threat. While America is distracted by the growls, dust, and
snapping of fake issues like global warming and racial profiling, immediate
problems like Islam, medicine, Social Security, gangs, and public schools,
are killing and crippling Americans today! To avoid any agreement with the
Bush Administration, politicians seeking the moonbat vote will finance the
ambitious scientists to promote the global warming issue, as long as those
politicians keep the grant money coming in.

I must admit, ever since I learned that global warming will drown San
Francisco, Santa Monica, and Boston I've been burning old tires in my back
year. But the reality is that the planet will continue to warm and humanity
will adapt as we always have, as long as we survive the present global
crisis.

America's grown-ups see the dog chasing its tail. We've looked for parasites
and mange but see nothing but bite marks and scars. We gather information,
study the behaviors, and take steps to calm the animal.

As much as I like Rudy, Newt, Condi, and Mitt, I think America needs Cesar
Millan in '08!

Asgeir Nesoe

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by Asgeir Nesoe » Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:05:07


You sound like a ***ing communist. I didn't know you had it in you.

You sound so mature, so reflecting, so kind, so... understanding and
willing to coexist with everyone. Hats off everyone.

When the shit hits the fan, I am sure you will "adapt" just fine in your
own eyes. If you adapt equally well to the future world as you adapt to
the present world, you'll do just fine. Ignorance is bliss.

You make it sound like we actually could lay or world in the hands of
american grown-ups. Amazing how much good faith you have in american
voters when you currently have a majority of what you call "leftists".

My single point of argument is this: I don't care who can prove what in
regard of the current global warming issue. What I do care about is if
we can afford to take that chance or not. The global warming issue is
not a lawsuit, it is a matter of a future habitable world or not. In
other words; it's not a matter of prove or prove wrong, it's a matter of
our willingness to play hazard with our actions when the worlds future
is at stake.

---A---

Dave

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by Dave » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:58:57


Put a bullet in your head.

Andre Warring

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by Andre Warring » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:56:04

Lol, you actually bothered to read that post? :D

Cheers
Andre

Ernesto Guzma

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by Ernesto Guzma » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:33:36

That was funny Andre!!


Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:22:00


> Put a bullet in your head.

Preferably using a sledgehammer rather than gunpowder?

Andrew McP

Jeff Rei

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by Jeff Rei » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:33:07

Greenhouse gasses rated by effect:

Water vapor    - 95.000%
Carbon Dioxide -  3.618% - man made .001170%
Nitrous Oxide  -  0.950% - man made .000469%
Methane        -  0.360% - man made .066000%
CFCs + other   -  0.072% - man made .047300%

Global warming started 18000 years ago. Since then, the ice sheets
that once convered much of the USA have receded to northern Canada.

A link to some real data:
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:17:00


> Global warming started 18000 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr-2.png

The question for our generation(s) is do we take this seriously or do we
gamble the planet as we know it to preserve our air conditioned, oil-
fired, landfill dumping lifestyles? Either way we might be wrong, but if
we're wrong in one direction we merely look stupid. Wrong in the other
direction we f*ck the planet.

The time for the developed world to grow up is approaching fast. Our
capitalistic adolescence is coming to an end one way or another.

Andrew McP

Greg Campbel

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by Greg Campbel » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:34:14


> To the dog: His tail preoccupies him for long periods of time.

And how does your pathetic fixation with those evil 'liberals' differ?

Ah... no.  Why don't you STFU instead?!

The US must depolarize or it will die.  ***heads like you are the real
traitors, Mitch.

-Greg

--

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, its just a goddamned piece
of paper!" - George W. Bush.

Jeff Rei

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by Jeff Rei » Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:04:46

Again, look at the data, mankind only added 3.225% to the the
total amount of carbon dioxide, which contributes only 3.618%
of the global warming effect.

Most of the increase in carbon dioxide is/was due to natural
causes. There's not much we can do, short of creating a
nuclear winter.

Unlike the widipedia article, this site is the result of
research of several professors.

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:51:00


> mankind only added 3.225% to the the
> total amount of carbon dioxide

"Only"? We're talking about the planet's atmosphere here, not adding a
bit of extra sauce to a hamburger.

As you point out though, the great thing about the internet is there's a
website for every opinion.

Andrew McP

Bob Lobla

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by Bob Lobla » Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:50:50



>> mankind only added 3.225% to the the
>> total amount of carbon dioxide

> "Only"? We're talking about the planet's atmosphere here, not adding a
> bit of extra sauce to a hamburger.

> As you point out though, the great thing about the internet is there's a
> website for every opinion.

> Andrew McP

This is the proof about global warming:
http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-05/positive-proof-global-warming...
mcewen

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by mcewen » Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:16:24

I look at it a different way, without looking at any of the constantly
disputed data I have no problem believing:

1)      That burning off fossil fuel energy within 200 years that took
thousands (millions?) of years to store is going to have some sort of
side effect.

2)      The effect is likely to be like an avalanche, starts off with few
snowflakes but builds.

3)      The planet is the 2nd most complex Rub Goldberg machine (next to
the universe itself) that we've ever imagined; therefore our ability
to predict cause and effect is likely has several orders of magnitude
of error (in any direction).

4)      Our historical information on weather patterns is sketchy at best,
how many category 4 hurricanes happened 50 years ago but we never had
the technology to see them unless they hit a city?

5)      The idea that motor racing is "carbon neutral" is the worst type of
"Enron accounting".  http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/56953

6)      Democratic governments of all stripes do a lousy job of dealing
with long term issues (hurts getting re-elected), but they don't mind
paying lip service to them (helps get re-elected).

7)      It will be nearly impossible to convince countries they can't have
SUVs because we've already used up their quota.

8)      The Kyoto accord was greeted by environmentalists when it was
introduced as a weak first step, meeting Kyoto targets now didn't
magically become a holy grail.

9)      Nothing in this thread will cause Mitch or the Mitch-haters to
change their minds.

10)     Point 5 was the only vague tie in to simulated motor racing in
this whole thread

11)     Points 9 & 10 were never the point of the original posting.

Just what I believe...

PS, since we're all doomed I'm off to buy a Lincoln Navigator before
there's another tax added to them ;)

Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:08:00


> 2) The effect is likely to be like an avalanche, starts off
> with few snowflakes but builds.

It's the work pointing in this direction which makes me prepared to put
climate change at the top of the agenda.

Part of the reason why climate change is being taken increasingly
seriously even by hardened sceptics and 'live for today' politicians is
that whatever happens, peak oil is on its way very soon. The measures
necessary to tackle that potential crisis happen to coincide
economically with much of the global warming agenda.

Andrew McP

Alan Bernard

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by Alan Bernard » Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:16:39



>>snipped a very poor attempt at analogy<

>> While America is distracted by the growls, dust, and snapping of fake
>> issues like global warming and racial profiling, immediate problems like
>> Islam, medicine, Social Security, gangs, and public schools, are killing
>> and crippling Americans today!

Is there anything particularly wrong with public schools in America.  Have
you ever been in one, or are you simply going by what television tells you
to think about them.  I've been in plenty of public schools (including in
the large inner cities) and they're pretty decent.  Sure, schools have
problems.  But that's been going on for centuries.  Kids rebel against
learning, generally, because it is too hard and right now they don't like
doing things that are too hard and don't like doing things that others tell
them they must do.  A great majority of us are the products of public
schools, and many of us turned out just fine.

Don't believe the media.  The media's sole purpose is to sell.  They will do
anything to raise ratings, including lying and exaggerating.

Alanb


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