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GP2 Video Rating

Reg Mucke

GP2 Video Rating

by Reg Mucke » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Hi All,
        I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in
the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card
and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any
frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any
of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram
card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug
me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are
Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have
something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me.

                                                        Mark Muckey

Ray

GP2 Video Rating

by Ray » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00


> Hi All,
>         I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in
> the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card
> and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any
> frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any
> of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram
> card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug
> me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are
> Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have
> something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me.

>                                                         Mark Muckey


Tell us what type of machine you have (ie. Pentium Pro 200, Pentium 166,
etc.).

Regards.

Steven Williamso

GP2 Video Rating

by Steven Williamso » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00


> Hi All,
>         I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in
> the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card
> and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any
> frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any
> of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram
> card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug
> me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are
> Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have
> something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me.

>                                                         Mark Muckey


The processor rating is affected by your processor, motherboard, and memory
subsystem.  The video rating is a standard VGA rating, reflecting your
video cards ability only in VGA, not SVGA.  GP2 uses this video rating to
calculate the estimated fps, which in SVGA may or may not be accurate.
The ratings you get are exactly what I got with my P166 with a Stealth 64
2MB Dram, before I ran the S3SPDUP TSR.  If you run this before you start
GP2, your video score should go up to 428, and it noticably speeds up
SVGA, at least 2fps.  Run it like this: S3SPDUP /LOAD /VESA /VGA   .
You should be able to download it from some of the game/sim sites.
Unless a game is written specifically for a 3D acelerator card, like the
Diamond 3D Blaster PCI, or the Intergraph Reactor, it will run about the
same on most high-quality cards, like the ones you've tried.  Dos games
have to be written for the chip on the card, and in Windows95, the game
and the card have to support Direct 3D.  If you want to see some improvement,
get the Intergraph Reactor and run ICR2.  You will not be dissapointed.
GP2 will run the same on it.

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Mik Gr

GP2 Video Rating

by Mik Gr » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00


>Hi All,
>        I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in
>the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card
>and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any
>frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any
>of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram
>card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug
>me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are
>Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have
>something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me.

>                                                        Mark Muckey


 Hi there.
           I think you can solve the problem by load upgrade the millenium
driver
to ver. 3.14 and also the bios on the millenium card to ver. 2.2.
I have p133 + matrox mill.4MB and the log file reads: proc 257 and video 484.
You find the upgrade files on: http://www.matrox.com. Good luck and send a
report
if you succed.
                                                     Michael Gripenfors


Guy Brossea

GP2 Video Rating

by Guy Brossea » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00



> > Hi All,
> >         I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in
> > the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card
> > and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any
> > frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any
> > of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram
> > card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug
> > me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are
> > Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have
> > something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me.

> >                                                         Mark Muckey

> Tell us what type of machine you have (ie. Pentium Pro 200, Pentium 166,
> etc.).

> Regards.

I had the same Stealth64 video 3200 2mb. video score about 350 on a
P166.
I changed it for a Hercules Dynamite 128, 2mb. Video score about 525.
Estimated fr went from 18.6 to 21.6 with just the essential textures (
of course no sky ). But this did not translate into anything dramatic in
the actual game. Slight improvement at best.
I then tried a Reactor, Video score went to 125, but only marginal
difference again in the game, slower this time. ICR2  was just great
though. I removed the board yesterday because it locked up windows
repeatedly. VGAFIX did not help.
So I'm back to the Dynamite.
The bottom line it that you have a very good card right now with the
Stealth. IMO it is not worth to shell out money for the Dynamite, unless
you can unload that Stealth for some dough. The speed boost you gain in
GP2 is marginal, but you do wind up with maybe the fastest DOS card out
there.

The best money right now would be on a processor upgrade. I don't know
what you have now, but if it's a p90 or p100, then go for it.
No graphic card is going to improve the game that much.
Then hope they port gp2 to a specific card. Don't hold your breath.

My guess is that within six months will see another great F1 sim, maybe
for the Verite or the Voodoo, and this will be a better sim than what we
can hope from GP2 in the future.

My 2 cents

Guy Brosseau

Henrik Hjortna

GP2 Video Rating

by Henrik Hjortna » Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:00:00


 SW> The processor rating is affected by your processor, motherboard, and
 SW> memory subsystem.  The video rating is a standard VGA rating, reflecti=
ng
 SW> your video cards ability only in VGA, not SVGA.

The video rating is affected by bus speed (external CPU clock) as well. Inc=
reasing bus speed from 50 to 60 or even 66MHz will increase video performan=
ce. At least i know it's true for gfx cards with PCI bus.

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Henrik Hjortnaes
      AMIGA
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Robin Chu

GP2 Video Rating

by Robin Chu » Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:00:00



>The video rating is affected by bus speed (external CPU clock) as well. Inc=
>reasing bus speed from 50 to 60 or even 66MHz will increase video performan=
>ce. At least i know it's true for gfx cards with PCI bus.

It should be added that the PCI bus runs at 1/2 the memory bus.  So a
66-MHz clock on the memory bus will have the PCI graphics card running at
33 MHz.  (60 --> 30MHz, 50 --> 25 MHz.)

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rya..

GP2 Video Rating

by rya.. » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00



> > Hi All,
> >         I have a question about this whole Proccessor and video speed thing in
> > the log text.I previously owned a Diamond Stealth 64 2mb Dram video card
> > and then ordered a Diamond 3d 2000 4mb Dram card.This didn't improve any
> > frame rates or video speed in the text.In fact it didn't improve in any
> > of my games.I then sent it back and bought a Matrox Millenium 4mb Wram
> > card.This to didn't improve any games which is really starting to bug
> > me.I know this is a good card so whats the deal?My scores in GP2 are
> > Proccessor speed 324 and video speed 320.Is this good or do I have
> > something wrong?Thanks for any help you can give me.

> >                                                         Mark Muckey

> Tell us what type of machine you have (ie. Pentium Pro 200, Pentium 166,
> etc.).

> Regards.

Yeh, Mark I had the same problem.  I had a Diamond Stealth 64 with 2mb
(Pentium 166) and went to a new VX motherboard and Diamond 3d 2000 with
2mb and these were the results:
GP Log: Old FX motherboard 166pentium Stealth 64 2mb
Speed 324
video 330
Gp Log: New VX motherboard 166 pentium Stealth 3d 2000 2mb
Speed 354
video 318

So figure that? My cpu speed went up but my video went down.  The 3d card
has the S3 virage chipset so I figure the card will perform (I think it
performs pretty good anyway) better with the 3D games that will come out.

I notice no difference in game playing though.

Also I can now run S3spdup.exe resident whereas before the machine would
just hang when I wanted to run gp2.  I'm going to stick with the 3d for
now.

ps. In my old system I tried an ET4000 PCI and got the same video score
as the Diamond.  Cheaper card too (not so many nice features in windows95
though).


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