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Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

BendsMaste

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by BendsMaste » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

After seeing the post by Andreas Kroell a week ago about him finally
lapping in Monza under 1.28s I decided to have mine here as well.
His case is exactly like mine as I have played GPL for the last year
and more intensely the last 6 months. I had also been stuck on
1.28.03/1.28.05 for ages, but I must admit I tried harder after
reading his post.
My secret to the magical 1.27s was also the Curva Grande. After
Andreas mentioned his kamikaze technique going into it,
I thought that he maybe right as I thought I had good speed everywhere
else. So on to Monza and after only 8 laps I did 1.27.86 on the last
one with the previous being 1.28.51! Nearly a second there.
I used a different technique entering Curva Grande as to the one he
described in his post; it's a combination of his advice and my own
driving style, ability and car setup. But without his suggestion I
would never have got the 1.27 as I have been looking as to why I
wouldn't lap below 1.28s for a while. I still feel there's more speed
to be gained through the Lesmos and exiting the Parabolica, but I
suppose when I get that right I'll be posting here about 1.26s (it is
possible!).
I achieved it last Saturday and since I am off work today I decided to
dedicate 5 hours of if to GPL, and only this morning I managed to
improve a bit more and have set my PB to 1.27.51! I did another 30
laps after that but haven't gone any faster, too e***d I suppose.
I drive the Lotus but in Spa as I like the Eagle there, but I found
once I could drive the Lotus I could drive any of the other cars,
although not as fast of course. Also I have only improved my times
since moving from MSFF to LWFF/CH pedals. As for my setups they were
initially a mix from W.Woeger, I.Lake and a couple of other known hot
lappers with my own tweaks. But in the last 3 months I got fed up with
other people's setups and decided to take and ingredient from each
that suited me, my own setups, a lot of reading on the subject
together with a lot of testing laps, and finally came up with 2 or 3
setups I can call my own and they're well suited to my driving style.
It would be interesting to hear about other GPLers out there who also
have been playing it for nearly a year, and find out where they are
now. I believe anyone lapping consistently in Monza at 1.28s is a fast
driver and no doubt could go faster. If I can, they can.
So who else has broken into the 1.27s in Monza? Let's hear it.

Cheers.

Mauricio.

Andre Warring

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Andre Warring » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Well, you didn't exactly get my name right (it's Andre Warringa), but
I'm glad you also succeeded in breaking the 1:28.
A great reference for drivers who broke the 1:28 is at Schubi's hotlap
site at http://www.parc-ferme.de/fastlaps.htm.
The current world record is 1:26:79 by Leonardo Grandis. Be sure to
give his setup a try (you can download it from the site), it's a
perfect setup for the Curva Grande!

Andre



BendsMaste

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by BendsMaste » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:40:45 +0100, Andre Warringa

Sorry about the name, I think the very first post somehow says Andreas
something as the author, never mind.
I will try Leonardo's setups right now.

Cheers.

Mauricio.

>Well, you didn't exactly get my name right (it's Andre Warringa), but
>I'm glad you also succeeded in breaking the 1:28.
>A great reference for drivers who broke the 1:28 is at Schubi's hotlap
>site at http://www.parc-ferme.de/fastlaps.htm.
>The current world record is 1:26:79 by Leonardo Grandis. Be sure to
>give his setup a try (you can download it from the site), it's a
>perfect setup for the Curva Grande!

>Andre



>>After seeing the post by Andreas Kroell a week ago about him finally
>>lapping in Monza under 1.28s I decided to have mine here as well.
>>His case is exactly like mine as I have played GPL for the last year
>>and more intensely the last 6 months. I had also been stuck on
>>1.28.03/1.28.05 for ages, but I must admit I tried harder after
>>reading his post.

Aubre

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Aubre » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Congrats!  Took me almost exactly a year too!  Finally did it about a month
ago.  For me there wasn't one particular corner that was costing me time.  I
was losing a little time *everywhere*.  But lately I've developed a deeper
understanding of setups, and slightly stiffer rear springs and more
asymmetrical camber made the difference.  Downloading hotlapper setups
didn't seem to help, I needed to make something that suited my style.

Ever since then, I've been improving everywhere.  Even managed to shock
myself and do a 1:04 at the Glen.  Makes GPL more ***ive than usual!

-A


Vintoo

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Vintoo » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I have gotten to 1.29.31 with the eagle and know I can make up more time in
the lesmos, once I get those down the way I like I'll work on the Parabolica
a little more. I feel if I switched to the lotus I could break the 1.28
barrier. However I still think the lotus is a wimpy way out since it is the
fastest car and I don't think it showed up till the very end of the 67
season. I'll try it out one of these days though just to see what I can get
to :)

Vintook


Rikanthr

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Rikanthr » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00

pbbbbbbbbbbbfffft.
that raspberry lasted approximately 1:28.55.
Kurt Steinboc

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Kurt Steinboc » Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Well said!  Erm, well sounded!  I was so inspired by all of this 1:27 stuff
that I went out and broke my barrier -- 1:28.99.

Now I'll need several weeks rest and nothing but soft, easy to digest foods.
Damn sim takes it out of you.

Kurt

Andre Warring

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Andre Warring » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I don't think there is much difference between the Eagle and the Lotus
at Monza. Wolfgang Woeger drove a 1.26.89 with the Eagle, his best
time so far, only 1/10th slower than Leonardo Grandis' world record
lap of 1.26.79 with the Lotus...
If you think you'll automatically be 1.5 seconds faster with the
Lotus, you might be in for a little disappointment. But maybe not, let
us know the results :)

Andre


>I have gotten to 1.29.31 with the eagle and know I can make up more time in
>the lesmos, once I get those down the way I like I'll work on the Parabolica
>a little more. I feel if I switched to the lotus I could break the 1.28
>barrier. However I still think the lotus is a wimpy way out since it is the
>fastest car and I don't think it showed up till the very end of the 67
>season. I'll try it out one of these days though just to see what I can get
>to :)

>Vintook

Andre Warring

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Andre Warring » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

A little correction: Grandis did a 1:26.72 with the Lotus yesterday :)

Andre

On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:25:55 +0100, Andre Warringa


>I don't think there is much difference between the Eagle and the Lotus
>at Monza. Wolfgang Woeger drove a 1.26.89 with the Eagle, his best
>time so far, only 1/10th slower than Leonardo Grandis' world record
>lap of 1.26.79 with the Lotus...
>If you think you'll automatically be 1.5 seconds faster with the
>Lotus, you might be in for a little disappointment. But maybe not, let
>us know the results :)

>Andre


>>I have gotten to 1.29.31 with the eagle and know I can make up more time in
>>the lesmos, once I get those down the way I like I'll work on the Parabolica
>>a little more. I feel if I switched to the lotus I could break the 1.28
>>barrier. However I still think the lotus is a wimpy way out since it is the
>>fastest car and I don't think it showed up till the very end of the 67
>>season. I'll try it out one of these days though just to see what I can get
>>to :)

>>Vintook

Grant Reev

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Grant Reev » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Congrats on breaking into those 1:27s :)


> I believe anyone lapping consistently in Monza at 1.28s is a fast
> driver and no doubt could go faster. If I can, they can.
> So who else has broken into the 1.27s in Monza? Let's hear it.

I only get to play GPL a couple of times a week - not enough!
too much work :) But just recently I've come up with a new
setup at Monza that's allowed me to get down to 1:28.00 - still
not a 1:27, damnit! :) My new setup allows me to carry a tiny
bit more speed into the corner and still make the turn, but
I'm still not used to going that little bit faster into a
corner without feeling like I'm going to smash into something,
yet. I did a little online race over the weekend where on my
clear laps (the traffic was evil) I was lapping between 1:28.0
to 1:28.4, so I know I should be able to hit those pesky 27's
soon...

Grant.

BendsMaste

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by BendsMaste » Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:04:47 -0800, "Aubrey"

I have actually changed to  a slightly siffer rear springs, although
there's more traction available for me with a softer rear springs. I
must admit I still don't think I have arrived to a final setup for
Monza after all this time.
Creating your own setup is the way to go in GPL though, it takes a bit
of time and effort to really understand how the car is affected by the
different setups, but minute details become more apparent as you lap
again and again after your last tweak.

Cheers

Mauricio

>Congrats!  Took me almost exactly a year too!  Finally did it about a month
>ago.  For me there wasn't one particular corner that was costing me time.  I
>was losing a little time *everywhere*.  But lately I've developed a deeper
>understanding of setups, and slightly stiffer rear springs and more
>asymmetrical camber made the difference.  Downloading hotlapper setups
>didn't seem to help, I needed to make something that suited my style.

>Ever since then, I've been improving everywhere.  Even managed to shock
>myself and do a 1:04 at the Glen.  Makes GPL more ***ive than usual!

>-A



>>After seeing the post by Andreas Kroell a week ago about him finally
>>lapping in Monza under 1.28s I decided to have mine here as well.
>>His case is exactly like mine as I have played GPL for the last year
>>and more intensely the last 6 months. I had also been stuck on
>>1.28.03/1.28.05 for ages, but I must admit I tried harder after
>>reading his post.
>>My secret to the magical 1.27s was also the Curva Grande. After
>>Andreas mentioned his kamikaze technique going into it,
>>I thought that he maybe right as I thought I had good speed everywhere
>>else. So on to Monza and after only 8 laps I did 1.27.86 on the last
>>one with the previous being 1.28.51! Nearly a second there.
>>I used a different technique entering Curva Grande as to the one he
>>described in his post; it's a combination of his advice and my own
>>driving style, ability and car setup. But without his suggestion I
>>would never have got the 1.27 as I have been looking as to why I
>>wouldn't lap below 1.28s for a while. I still feel there's more speed
>>to be gained through the Lesmos and exiting the Parabolica, but I
>>suppose when I get that right I'll be posting here about 1.26s (it is
>>possible!).
>>I achieved it last Saturday and since I am off work today I decided to
>>dedicate 5 hours of if to GPL, and only this morning I managed to
>>improve a bit more and have set my PB to 1.27.51! I did another 30
>>laps after that but haven't gone any faster, too e***d I suppose.
>>I drive the Lotus but in Spa as I like the Eagle there, but I found
>>once I could drive the Lotus I could drive any of the other cars,
>>although not as fast of course. Also I have only improved my times
>>since moving from MSFF to LWFF/CH pedals. As for my setups they were
>>initially a mix from W.Woeger, I.Lake and a couple of other known hot
>>lappers with my own tweaks. But in the last 3 months I got fed up with
>>other people's setups and decided to take and ingredient from each
>>that suited me, my own setups, a lot of reading on the subject
>>together with a lot of testing laps, and finally came up with 2 or 3
>>setups I can call my own and they're well suited to my driving style.
>>It would be interesting to hear about other GPLers out there who also
>>have been playing it for nearly a year, and find out where they are
>>now. I believe anyone lapping consistently in Monza at 1.28s is a fast
>>driver and no doubt could go faster. If I can, they can.
>>So who else has broken into the 1.27s in Monza? Let's hear it.

>>Cheers.

>>Mauricio.

Leo Grec

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Leo Grec » Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Congratulations!  After all this 1.27 talk lately I was inspired to give
it a go myself.  I am pleased to announce that I too have just cracked the
1.28 barrier with a pb of 1:27.86 in the lotus.  I used the setup from the
world record holder and power shifted to do it though.

Leo


> After seeing the post by Andreas Kroell a week ago about him finally
> lapping in Monza under 1.28s I decided to have mine here as well.
> His case is exactly like mine as I have played GPL for the last year
> and more intensely the last 6 months. I had also been stuck on
> 1.28.03/1.28.05 for ages, but I must admit I tried harder after
> reading his post.
> My secret to the magical 1.27s was also the Curva Grande. After
> Andreas mentioned his kamikaze technique going into it,
> I thought that he maybe right as I thought I had good speed everywhere
> else. So on to Monza and after only 8 laps I did 1.27.86 on the last
> one with the previous being 1.28.51! Nearly a second there.
> I used a different technique entering Curva Grande as to the one he
> described in his post; it's a combination of his advice and my own
> driving style, ability and car setup. But without his suggestion I
> would never have got the 1.27 as I have been looking as to why I
> wouldn't lap below 1.28s for a while. I still feel there's more speed
> to be gained through the Lesmos and exiting the Parabolica, but I
> suppose when I get that right I'll be posting here about 1.26s (it is
> possible!).
> I achieved it last Saturday and since I am off work today I decided to
> dedicate 5 hours of if to GPL, and only this morning I managed to
> improve a bit more and have set my PB to 1.27.51! I did another 30
> laps after that but haven't gone any faster, too e***d I suppose.
> I drive the Lotus but in Spa as I like the Eagle there, but I found
> once I could drive the Lotus I could drive any of the other cars,
> although not as fast of course. Also I have only improved my times
> since moving from MSFF to LWFF/CH pedals. As for my setups they were
> initially a mix from W.Woeger, I.Lake and a couple of other known hot
> lappers with my own tweaks. But in the last 3 months I got fed up with
> other people's setups and decided to take and ingredient from each
> that suited me, my own setups, a lot of reading on the subject
> together with a lot of testing laps, and finally came up with 2 or 3
> setups I can call my own and they're well suited to my driving style.
> It would be interesting to hear about other GPLers out there who also
> have been playing it for nearly a year, and find out where they are
> now. I believe anyone lapping consistently in Monza at 1.28s is a fast
> driver and no doubt could go faster. If I can, they can.
> So who else has broken into the 1.27s in Monza? Let's hear it.

> Cheers.

> Mauricio.

David Ewin

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by David Ewin » Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:00:00


>  However I still think the lotus is a wimpy way out since it is the
> fastest car and I don't think it showed up till the very end of the 67
> season.

Actually, it showed up at the third race of the season - Zandvoort.  The only
races it missed were Kyalami and Monaco.

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*****************************************************
David A. Ewing

*****************************************************

Eldre

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Eldre » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00



>I don't think there is much difference between the Eagle and the Lotus
>at Monza. Wolfgang Woeger drove a 1.26.89 with the Eagle, his best
>time so far, only 1/10th slower than Leonardo Grandis' world record
>lap of 1.26.79 with the Lotus...
>If you think you'll automatically be 1.5 seconds faster with the
>Lotus, you might be in for a little disappointment. But maybe not, let
>us know the results :)

>Andre

Ok, how 'bout the difference between the Eagle and the Ferarri?  Just
curious...

Eldred
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Chuck Kandle

Can I just broadcast my 1.27.86 FINALLY!

by Chuck Kandle » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00


> Ok, how 'bout the difference between the Eagle and the Ferarri?  Just
> curious...

> Eldred

In my personal experience going from the Ferrari to the Eagle at Monza
was worth almost 2 full seconds.  Then again, it may have been the
driver ;-)  I always loved the Ferrari for it's sound when I first
started, but was hung up in the low 1:32's for a long time.  I looked
around at the other cars and tried the Eagle.  Within a day or two, I
had low 1:30's and never looked back.  Of course, on courses with nice
tight turns, the Eagle is a little more of a handful.  But for tracks
where she can stretch her legs out, it seems to give up little to the
Lotus & is easier to handle.

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