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Not really
Flugplatz means Airfield
Flughafen is Airport

JJ

:) Hi, John. It's a nice try, and I actually like most of what you
posted. I think I'll stay with literal or cultural translations, though.
The other guy posting about the Tower of Babel was right; we don't want
to invent our own language. "Razorbacks", ehh? Describes them perfectly
to me, but what about the next guy?

Michael.

Hmm, in my version of GPL I think it means 'Holy Sh*t'. ;)

On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 00:12:00 -0500, Michael Young <mi...@mcs.com>
wrote:

Doing some laps on the real thing helps a lot. ;-)

I did two laps this weekend: one took over 3 hours on a bicycle, the
other one just under 20min in a 25year old 55hp 2ton campmobil. ;-)

And I can tell you, the Ring has very steep uphill sections ( and
sownhills as well ...), a computer monitor can not show this. I rode
up the short 17% climb of Quiddelbacher H?he, but walked most of the
other climbs. The camper crawled the 2 or 3 miles up Kesselchen at an
average of 25mph!

The first 270 degree turn was called "Sdkurve" or "south curve". Now,
there is the modern GP track and the "Castrol S" chicane. Further
away, the "Dunlop Kehre" (Dunlop turn) is a similar over 180+ degree
turn.

The banked Nordkurve (you guess the translation) is the left hander
over the bridge to the downhill left hander that leads into
Hatzenbach. Nowadays, the GP track can be connected there to the
Nordschleife for a 25.3km "Gesamter Ring" (whole track) which is used
in touring car racing.

Hatzenbach means "Hatzen Creek", which is somewhere left of the track

Not really. The "High Oaks" are the trees left of the Cork-Screw like
right - left downhill before the straight to the bridge over
Bundestrasse B 257 (federal street)
The 17% steep uphill jump after the bridge is called "Quiddelbacher
H?he", or Quiddelbach Heights, after the village nearby. Manfred
Winkelhock did a giant salto backwards waay up in the air in 1980(?)
after the front wing of his Formula 2 got damaged, landing outside the
right hand corner, uninjured.

The sailing planes airfield used to be somewhere left of the track,
between the first right hander and the downhill lefthander

The "Sweden Cross" is a memorial for a tax man who was robbed and
killed by a Swede, several years after the swedish army has left the
area during the 30 year war, in the 1630s or 1640s

Maybe "Mount Arem", named after a village there.

"Fox pipeline" or "fox hole", named after a fox hiding in a water
pipeline while it was build.
BTW the fastest and maybe most impressive part of the Ring, if you
dare to drive (or get driven) it at full speed. At over 120 mph, car
drivers get pushed into their seats when the steep downhill suddenly
turns into a steep lefthand (GPL did not get this very good), and
unprepared bikers hiding behind the fairing get their chest or helmet
smacked heavily on the tank

The tight left-right handers up there, IMHO not very well modelled in
GPL. Many amateurs miss the lefthander and run over the grass - if
would have a chance to grow there ...
"Forest of Adenau", the village near Breitscheid. The road that leads
to the viewing areas there starts near the school in Adenau.
Also, Konrad Adenauer was the mayor of Cologne in th 1920s, is said to
have supported the idea of building the Ring, and was the first
Chancellor of Germany after WW2.

The two left handers after the straight. "Feld" means field, "Metzges"
was called Mertgends before 1860, according to a Ring drivers book I
have (Metzger would mean butcher, if someone prefers that ...)

A "hard" or "hardt" is a forest, this one named after the creek
"Kallenbach".

"Seifen" does not means soaps here, even if the grip is like that.
Maybe "Defense valley" is a translation

Breidscheid is the village there, the bridge leads over the B257

Exactly. "Ex-Mhle" does not mean "former mill" here; "Ex" is the name
of the creek, valley and lake nearby. The former mill there would
correctly be named "Ex-Ex-Mhle" then ...

The former "Bergwerk" or "Silver Mine" used to be in the steep high
mountains directly right of the track, hiding the apex and exit of the
right hander from view (GPL did not get this very good also). In the
small left hander on the fast part between Ex-Mhle and Bergwerk, Niki
Lauda had his fire crash in 1976

"chen" is added to make things samller, in english AFAIK like the
"ling" ind duckling".
In the very long alpine-pass like steep uphill "Little Pot" section,
steep mountains and dark forests are on both sides, but the track
changes from the left side to the right side of the creek running
there somewhere deep below the track.
GPL being not being perfect there, either.

The "Monastery valley" section is long, but it mainly refers to the
tight slow right hander that leads to the Karussell. The "exit"
texture there at the left leads to the "Steilstrecke", an extremely
"steep track" directly to "Hohe Acht".

Caroussell, or Roundabout. I illegally drove this twice with the
camper, after parking in the wide flat area that is there now in the
center, permitting a wider view)

Right hander at the top of the uphill esses. Refers to the highest
mountain (nearly 800 Meters) in the region, the"High Eight", or
probably "High Watch out", if "Acht" is translated like "Achtung!" or
"take care!".

The next, rather unknown sign on the track, just after Hohe Acht,
partially hidden by the trees on the right side, is named
"Hedwigs-H?he", or Heights of Hedwig, which is a womans name, probably
a member of a former noble family owning the area

Wippermann or "Bumper man" is a personalized description of the
formerly very bumpy section of esses up there that lead to the blind
uphill right hander. In the GPL beta, the Brnnchen sign is placed
there for no good reason

Eschbach is s village nearby, a "Esche" is a kind of tree, and "Bach"
is again a creek. It's the downhill section with the lefthander and
righthander, leading into Brnnchen.

"Brnnchen", the "little well", names the bridge at the end of the
short straight, before the uphill right hander. Nowadys, there is no
creek under it, but a short tunnel with a road (yes, I am curious).
But there used to be a water pipeline feeding the village of
Herschbroich in the center of the Ring.

No sign there in the "Ice curve", but a well known lefthander. With
high trees being close to the track, there was always more shadow than
sun, and the part of the track that is most likely to be wet or icy.

Pflanzgarten, or "plant garden". Was used to grow food there. Now the
downhill esses leading to the small jump (too small in GPL) before the
right handers, the the big jump downhill, plus a fast small, but in
reality quite difficult jump at the exit to Schwalbenschwanz.

The big jump just in or after a left hander, where the car has to be
set straight before. Even winged F1 cars in the 70s used to fly down
there 2 feet in the air, fast touring cars still go airborne

"Swallow tail", named after the shape of the two left handers on the
blue print when the track was build

"Little Karussell". In GPL, the banking is too long and too tight.

The two fast right handers. While a "Kopf" usually is a "head", here
it names a hill where the "hanging device" (the dictionary says
gallows or gibbet) used to be in former times.

The Heights of D?ttingen, a village nearby. The long straight,
nowadays much wider and without bumps. No sign of hills on either side
of the tracks are left, maybe because there are roads now.

"Antoniusbuche", the fast downhill lefthander under the bridge. There
used to be a big old "Buche" tree named after "St. Antonius".
I was on the bridge, but the view is obstructed by tall walls for
advertisement signs - or against idiots dropping things on the
vehicles racing past below?

The little valley with the fast uphil esses is called "Tiergarten", or
animal garden - or pet cemetary, if you can call horses pets.

"Hohenrain", or "high wooded hillside", is the name of the chicane
which was build there in 1967 to slow the cars down before entering
the straight or pits. Also, its a name of a road in the village of
Nrburg.

HTH, but I'm not so sure about "pronouncable". ;-)

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Excellent post. Thanks! BTW, in Vienna, the "Tiergarten" is a zoo. I
think that's common translation.
Sam

;-)

Common, yes, but not always. In Berlin, that's the central park,
formerly used by Royals for easy deer hunting.
But the section on the Ring was named after a former grave yard for
animals.

BTW, I forgot to mention the most important sign of them all:
On top of Flugplatz, at the right side in the marshall area, there is
a (former green, now white with the Ring logo circle) sign that says:
"Nrburgring - sch?nste Rennstrecke der Welt",
which means nothing less than
"Nrburgring - most beautiful race track in the world"

Some people say, this is not true - it should say "universe" instead
of only "world" ...

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My 1968 dictionary (yes, it really is) say that flugplatz means aerodrome.

Eric