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I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

Andrew Lavign

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by Andrew Lavign » Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> I was wrong about the grass . I did a few more laps  & started to like it a
> little more. My #1 problem with GPL is the letterbox view & FPS . Hopefully
> it will improve !!

Personally I like the letterbox format.  As for FPS, I can't notice frames
when
I am playing - it is quite smooth.   (Pentium MMX cpu + Pure3d + 64MB)


> > Uumm, I think the reason it is hard is that these cars were VERY hard to
> drive.
> > What is the challenge you are having in the grass? As long as I don't
> flloor
> > it, I can get out of the grass just fine. Just go easy on the pedal.
> Obviously
> > if I  max out the accelerator, the car will simply spin all over the
> place in
> > the grass, which is pretty realistic!! Back to having fun, now!!
> >                                           Ken

> > The Game Pad
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

mack

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by mack » Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Hay Dave just because i dont drive from the***pit does'nt mean i cant
enjoy the other sim options like setup - yellow flags -pit stops ect... I
know driving from behind the car is'nt like the real deal but i dont think
the***pit is that real either ( you can't even see any part of the hood -
it looks like a frame window to me ) The 1st sim i ever owned was nascar 1
& i drove from outside the car . When i try and go back  in the car i can
not run good lap after lap so i drive from outside . I like having the
***pit option in my sims so i can go in & check the gauges or try and
drive from in the car. I did'nt even know there was newsgroup called
rec.alt.games !! IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE DAVE :)



>   I'm sorry mack, this is the rec,alt. SIMULATORS...if you drive from
behind
> the car you want rec.alt.GAMES    period.
> dave henrie


> > I want full screen view period !!! I drive from behind the car not the
> >***pit ! I like the full sceen view in icr2 & nascar2 ! Whats amusing
> > about that jaggoff ? That letter box view reminds me of that ***game
> > called gp2 :)

RaiderZone00

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by RaiderZone00 » Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:00:00

He didn't say that did he ????  Please tell me that his post was a late
april fools joke....Or ...he's never driven a real race car and just
doesn't understand what actually happens on the track...GPL is a true
SIM. I love ICR2 and will continue to race it as well as GP2 and N2
(until N3 comes out ;-) ) but when I start driving GPL I can't
stop...and it's hard... ...and that's why it's so much fun. BTW The Pits
Touring Car version 2.0 is out at their site for those who are
un-impressed with GPL.

Steve at RXspeed7 racing

Visit the RXspeed7 page at...
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7177/index.html

RaiderZone00

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by RaiderZone00 » Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:00:00



> >steering options . Some of the spins seem canned . The locking of the tires

> Hmm, I must say I noticed the same. I thought that maybe I'm just a
> bad driver, but it seemed I constantly got into spins which I couldn't
> countersteer at all, and I really mean at all. Not like in F1RS or
> Nascar2 for example. Were the racing cars of sixties really that bad?

Yes the cars of the sixties WERE that bad .You have to remember that
we'retalking narrow tires , cars had a much narrower stance , NO Ground effects
, Alot of power , ect. Even a current Nascar is tons more efficient (
Aerodynamically ) than the GPL cars. Driving the GPL car requires smooth input
and precision car placement to get through the corners quickly ( Something I
have yet to master ). Even the way the cars see to wander around at high speed
is true-to-form. Anyone who has ever been in a 4 wheel drift through a fast turn
in a real car can relate. IMO a most impressive Simulation.

Steve at RXspeed7 racing

Visit the RXspeed7 page at...
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7177/index.html

Chris Roger

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by Chris Roger » Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> What have you been smoking?!? GP2 rocks

GP2 sucks dead-donkey-dick!  God ,when will they understand?!
RaiderZone00

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by RaiderZone00 » Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> I want full screen view period !!! I drive from behind the car not the
>***pit ! I like the full sceen view in icr2 & nascar2 !

Ummm. Not trying' to disrespect you but...this SIMulation....is a SIMulation
of actual driving. I have yet to see some in an actual race drive from above
and behind the car. I too occasionally drive the ARCADE view in N2 and
ICR2....It's amusing...But I guess Papy made GPL less for Arcade style play
than actual in the***pit driving.

Steve at RXspeed7 racing

Visit the RXspeed7 page at...
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Dave Henri

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by Dave Henri » Thu, 09 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> Hay Dave just because i dont drive from the***pit does'nt mean i cant
> enjoy the other sim options like setup - yellow flags -pit stops ect... I
> know driving from behind the car is'nt like the real deal but i dont think
> the***pit is that real either ( you can't even see any part of the hood -
> it looks like a frame window to me ) The 1st sim i ever owned was nascar 1
> & i drove from outside the car . When i try and go back  in the car i can
> not run good lap after lap so i drive from outside . I like having the
>***pit option in my sims so i can go in & check the gauges or try and
> drive from in the car. I did'nt even know there was newsgroup called
> rec.alt.games !! IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE DAVE :)

   :)   yup!   The trouble with behind the car views...and thats why the "game"
tag is labled on them, is that most of the Playstation/Nintendo drivers are
behind the car...ergo the game as opposed to the sim...Anyhow, who am I to
talk,,,I'm ***slow in almost every sim I do...;)
dave henrie
Byron Forbe

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> Agree  ! the control is not as bad as i made it sound . ( it's not xcar
> type control :) The spins are frustrating ! It slides sidways then
> backwards into fences,hay bails and then the engine explodes :) How slow do
> i need to be going before i can drive it in the corner ?

   Tip - stay out of 1st gear.

   Tip - practice a lot

   Tip - practice a lot before your next post.

Byron Forbe

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> I hate the letterbox screen !!!!!!!! I want full screen racing like nascar
> 2 & icr2 . The sense of speed can not touch the speed i get in icr2 at the
> converted glen track from N2. Yes i used the GP CAR  . The control does'nt
> seem to be as precise as their other sims . I use a t2 & adjusted all the
> steering options . Some of the spins seem canned . The locking of the tires
> is cool under braking . I am just not that impressed with the physics model
> while driving . Maybe i need to drive it more to get the hang of it but the
> more i drive it the more i hate it ( not the other way around ) I know this
> is a alpha but IMO it has a longggggg way to go. If nascar 3 is this hard
> to get around the track then i'll stick with the games papy made before
> sierra ruined them . ( except for nascar 2 :) My system is a p166 48 megs &
> a thriller 3d . Put me in a real gp car on the grass & i bet i can get back
> on the track alot faster than i can in this f#$%ing sim :) I know alot of
> people like this demo so have fun .

  Gee, I'll bet you'll wish you had never posted this in a week or so!
Byron Forbe

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> let the boy drive wherever he wants to.

> nascar 1 and gpr have bigger views.

> they are better.

> they are better than nascar 2 and GPL.

> The replays are better at michigan in nascar 1 than nascar2.

> Know why?  The view is bigger.

> The cars 100 feet ahead aren't just a dot on the screen.
> who do you work for, Sierra?

  I'm not sure I've seen 2 comedians of this caliber in the same thread.
Hmmmmmmm????????????????
Byron Forbe

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> I want full screen view period !!! I drive from behind the car not the
>***pit ! I like the full sceen view in icr2 & nascar2 ! Whats amusing
> about that jaggoff ? That letter box view reminds me of that ***game
> called gp2 :)

   I can't understand why I'm not suprised you drive from behind the
car. Backseat driver? Try getting in the car. See, now your feet can
reach the pedals and everything!
DPHI

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by DPHI » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00

How do you really feel about it?

just

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by just » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00


You don't get it , do you?  The cars are based on F1 type cars that
have NO wings and NO spoilers and shitty brakes.  So that means there
is absolutely no down force.  You need to be a real driver to run
these cars.  This is a good way to find out if you have what it takes
to be a professional driver.

mack

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by mack » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00

I can improve . How many setup options do these old cars have ?




> >I hate the letterbox screen !!!!!!!! I want full screen racing like
nascar
> >2 & icr2 . The sense of speed can not touch the speed i get in icr2 at
the
> >converted glen track from N2. Yes i used the GP CAR  . The control
does'nt
> >seem to be as precise as their other sims . I use a t2 & adjusted all
the
> >steering options . Some of the spins seem canned . The locking of the
tires
> >is cool under braking . I am just not that impressed with the physics
model
> >while driving . Maybe i need to drive it more to get the hang of it but
the
> >more i drive it the more i hate it ( not the other way around ) I know
this
> >is a alpha but IMO it has a longggggg way to go. If nascar 3 is this
hard
> >to get around the track then i'll stick with the games papy made before
> >sierra ruined them . ( except for nascar 2 :) My system is a p166 48
megs &
> >a thriller 3d . Put me in a real gp car on the grass & i bet i can get
back
> >on the track alot faster than i can in this f#$%ing sim :) I know alot
of
> >people like this demo so have fun .

> You don't get it , do you?  The cars are based on F1 type cars that
> have NO wings and NO spoilers and shitty brakes.  So that means there
> is absolutely no down force.  You need to be a real driver to run
> these cars.  This is a good way to find out if you have what it takes
> to be a professional driver.

ymenar

I dont like the GPL DEMO !!!!

by ymenar » Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:00:00

SBeshear

Your probably another one also...

Gpr ? Whoa ! It's the new simulator in 2003 called GrandPrix: Renaissance ?

Well, since I never tried GPR, I can't tell.  You probably race the arcade
version of N2.

I think you don't know that there is a "full-screen" view in the Nascar2
replay.  You probably hacked the game, and not have a manual.

CUC software, just to help you.  lol he thinks it's Sierra who made the
simulator. 'nuff said about his credibility.

Loll, I actually found a guy more funny than LeChicken

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