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F1/CART merger?

Colin Harri

F1/CART merger?

by Colin Harri » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:19:59

Thr Toronto Sun today apparently claimed that Li'l Bernie's buying 51% of
CART for FIA....what would be the ramifications of this?

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Cong

F1/CART merger?

by Cong » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:25:44

Well it is not a merger


Edward

F1/CART merger?

by Edward » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 07:21:25

The report I read said that Bernie is buying 51%, and Forsythe was buying in
up to 25%. The rational is to use CART as a feeder system for F1 and to get
more recognition for F1 in the US. Also Bernie's is not too happy with Tony
George and is reportedly looking for a way out of the contract.

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Alex 'pez' Porazinsk

F1/CART merger?

by Alex 'pez' Porazinsk » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 07:44:43

what happens to F1 when people look at CART and see great racing?

pez


> The report I read said that Bernie is buying 51%, and Forsythe was buying
in
> up to 25%. The rational is to use CART as a feeder system for F1 and to
get
> more recognition for F1 in the US. Also Bernie's is not too happy with
Tony
> George and is reportedly looking for a way out of the contract.

> --
> Edward
> Commissioner
> Middle-Aged Racers Association (MARA)
> http://members.rogers.com/ecrawford1/mara/maramain.htm



> > Thr Toronto Sun today apparently claimed that Li'l Bernie's buying 51%
of
> > CART for FIA....what would be the ramifications of this?

> > --

> > Colin
> > ICQ 25485061
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Damien Smit

F1/CART merger?

by Damien Smit » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:08:32

Dunno, CART always looks like amateur hour to me after watching F1.  I can't
believe how dodgy some of those CART tracks look.  Some of them make Monaco
look good.

Jan Verschuere

F1/CART merger?

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:38:15

Hehehe... talk about different taste. F1 tracks look over-sanitized to me.
;-)

Racing is supposed to be a bit dirty, a bit ragged Damien...

Jan.
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Brad Larocqu

F1/CART merger?

by Brad Larocqu » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:17:23

What do mean by dodgy? Which tracks?

>>what happens to F1 when people look at CART and see great racing?

> Dunno, CART always looks like amateur hour to me after watching F1.  I can't
> believe how dodgy some of those CART tracks look.  Some of them make Monaco
> look good.

Damien Smit

F1/CART merger?

by Damien Smit » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:49:59

A certain bumpy old concrete airport comes to mind.  In general, the street
circuits look like they were set up by 'racetracks-are-us'

Edward

F1/CART merger?

by Edward » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:54:51


Still better than F1's "Chicanes-are-everywhere"

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Jason Moy

F1/CART merger?

by Jason Moy » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:14:28



Interesting.  Would be cool if they ran a few races with CART as a
support series.  Would be cooler if F1 raced the modern Long Beach
circuit too. =)

Jason

Dan Belch

F1/CART merger?

by Dan Belch » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:07:20

Funny, I think that bumpy old airport is one of the most brilliant racetracks
of the past twenty years.

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Dave Henri

F1/CART merger?

by Dave Henri » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:25:30


    Even my wife, who HATES racing, remembers the Cleveland race with
Jacques and Robbie Gordon driving themselves off the pavement, and Robbie
cussing on the Radio because Mikey Andrettie Cut his tires with a front wing
endplate not ONCE but TWICE!!  Ah yes...cleveland is a fine racing
enviroment.
  But clearly it is not the best the US has to offer.  I dare anyone to find
a more complete track than Mid Ohio.  With it's blind corners, elevation
changes, fast and slow sections...it is magic(and I'm not talking about the
the sim-ports of ICR2)
  Road Atlanta, Road America  two fine high speed circuits...Laguna
is...well home of the Corkscrew, a turn that rivals Eau Rouge in
complexity(but certainly not in speed)
    I'm not thrilled with most street courses...although for 20 or 30 years
the course at Long Beach has shown you CAN have racing inside a City.  But I
would take simple  Portland over those Chicaned-Nuetered tracks anyday.  If
you got rid of that Bastard wiggle at the end of Suzuka, they'd have a truly
admirable circut.  Monza?  (it's a ghost of it's former self)  and San
Marino?  With the Senna safety mods, that track is about as exciting as ....
as ....
  Spa?  A truly Classic circuit...magnificent UNTIL you reach the end of the
lap...what an absolutely awful way to slow the cars down before the
grandstands.
      Modern F1 tracks can be summarized by the newer Nurburging.  I watched
a DTM race there from last season(on the tv, I didn't attend) and the cars
didn't wiggle, didn't bounce, had barely ANY attitude change while
negotiating a wide smooth grippy track. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   MAN!  Give me
one of those tiny tiny bumpy Scottish tracks with BTCC touring cars banging
away at each other for lap after lap..
dave henrie

JB

F1/CART merger?

by JB » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:41:55

Well I suppose if racing quality were judged based on track cost then F1
might win...but it isn't.

JB

Norman Blac

F1/CART merger?

by Norman Blac » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:04:05

I will second that.

Norman

Mikkel Gram-Hanse

F1/CART merger?

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:50:28

AMEN Brother !

Mikkel


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