rec.autos.simulators

Strange review for OF1R

Ken Nicols

Strange review for OF1R

by Ken Nicols » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00





>I went to the site to have a laugh, and it looks like someone's email
>to the reviewer worked. He has re-worded the article to the text
>below! :-)

>"The other big complaint is in the handling in races. This game just
>seemsway too sensitive for my tastes, even with the computer assists
>on. Downshifting, which in the real world would be used in addition to
>braking to  help slow the car,

The real world of driving to work, not the real world of road racing.
I don't think any modern-era F1 games have significant engine braking.
In my GP1/2 hotlapping days, I cannot remember any significant (ie,
0.1 of a second) difference in changing shifting points. Braking
points were a million times more important. Of all the hotlap graphs I
overlaid, I can't once remember thinking "If only I'd downshifted
earlier!".

*scratches head* Braking whilst turning is meant to be hard. Methinks
Motorhead and Psygnosis F1 is the limit of his racing experience.

Eh? Is he saying you can't just stamp on the gas once you pass the
apex without losing the back end?

Isn't that where all races are lost? Better not less this guy loose on
GPL!

I'll have to visit for a laugh!

Is the handling model actually any good though?

Ken

Mark C Dod

Strange review for OF1R

by Mark C Dod » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

What a great idea......remove the brakes and just use engine compression to slow
down. Make for some big blowups at the end of a long straight but.....

Total bollocks me thinks........


> The review is at http://www.gamepen.com/preview/PC/06_01_1999_343_2.asp

> Here is an extract which I found really really strange.

> "...The other big complaint is in the handling in races. This game just
> seems way too sensitive for my tastes, even with the computer assists on.
> Official F1 Racing really requires players to use the brake pedal to make
> some turns. This makes me want to retract my previous statement that the
> developers at Lankhor were watching real world races -- for if they were,
> they would know that most drivers don't use the brake, they downshift to
> slow up. Yes, it might wear out the transmission but these are professional
> racers, not your average 20- somethng-year-old on his way home from work, so
> burning out the transmission isn't likely since there is a whole team to
> keep the gears in top notch order..."

> Deep insight or total bollocks? Please comment. :-)

B

Strange review for OF1R

by B » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Unfortunately your rather rude and childish, not to mention
poorly-spelled email to him does a disservice to this newsgroup.
Hardly "worthy reading".

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:16:05 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"


>I sent the prat an e-mail about the WHOLE damned thing...it's down below
>here...it makes worthy reading.  I hope he never writes again.

>"...Your review of Official F1 racing was truely appauling.

>One comment in particular was bought up in rec.autos.simulators.

>I came to see what was meant, and found the whole review to be full of
>mistakes, errors, and lazy journalism. About as amateur as it can get.

>I'll start at the beginning.

>"In the race the player is primary locked in a chase view, at least in the
>previewable copy that I was playing"....

>In the demo version you can use the End, Home, Pg Up, Pg Down, Ins, and Del
>keys to move through a LOT of views in a race.

>"While the***pit view seems to be missing, that seems to be only a small
>complaint in a game that still has a few other minor issues"

>There are infact, three different***pit views, eachone putting you
>slightly lower, and eachone making the nose & front wheel take up more of
>the view. They are very good. However, the mirrors don't work, and you must
>resort to using the big piece of cack at the top of the screen.

>"What is missing is the replay mode..."

>I enjoyed watchin many replays in the demo-version. Very nice it was to.
>What were you doing instead.

>"This game just seems way too sensitive for my tastes, even with the
>computer assists on"

>Played GPL have you. Clearly not. Formula One IS sensitive. That's the whole
>point. Is the cars were slower to move they'd be CRAP.  I was using a $50
>steering wheel, and found the demo easy to drive, and became quite at-one
>with the car as time went on. You must get used to a control feel for some
>time, before actually slagging it off. A sign of complete incompetance on
>your belhalf.

>"they would know that most drivers don't use the brake, they downshift to
>slow up. "

>BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT. You keep refering to the writers of the game
>watching too much racing as opposed to writing about it, but YOU, infact,
>have clearly watched no Formula One at ALL. The brakes are used EVERY LAP of
>EVERY CIRCUIT.  Take the demo-track...Suzuka. a REAL formula One driver uses
>the brakes going into turns..1 & 2, the second Degner Curver, the Hairpin,
>Spoon Curve, and the *** Chicane.  At Hockenheim, for instance, how is a
>driver to go from 340+ kph to less than 120kph THREE TIMES A LAP without
>using his brakes. And if the drivers didn't use their brakes, WHIY DO THEY
>BOTHER TO MAKE THEM, and why are some tracks considered harder on brakes
>than others.  This point alone makes you clearly a highly incompetant
>critique for racing games / simulators.

>"and no one who wants to be playing with automatic transmission should even
>think of sitting behind any F1 game but here it almost makes sense."

>Automatic transmition is a must for the beginning driver. Before fully
>utilizing the controls of the car, one must get used to driving it. And at
>first, I did this in Offical F1, but I later changed to manual, and enjoyed
>it also. So again, complete CRAP.

>I don't think Official F1 lives up to the hype it was given. I'd  consider
>it a good game, if it was available on a budget price, but not full price.

>If your review of 6.1.99  was worth writing at all, it was worth writing to
>discover an e-journalist who's efforts were simply not worth imposing on the
>general public. I wouldn't be supprised if you recieved HUNDREDS of email
>from people who both like the game and don't, reminding you that your review
>was CRAP. What's the point of writin a review so long before the real game,
>or the demo comes out. Even the cheapest Computer Magazines remaind reserved
>about commenting, and at least they know SOMETHING about what they are
>talking.

>That's all I have to say..and I hope you either think before writing, or
>don't write again.

>Douglas Ellison

>"

>>>most drivers don't use the brake, they downshift to
>>>slow up.

>>oh_my_gawd...now I've heard it all...

>>fool

>>-don

Driver

Strange review for OF1R

by Driver » Tue, 08 Jun 1999 04:00:00

LOL

Roland Ehnstr?

Strange review for OF1R

by Roland Ehnstr? » Tue, 08 Jun 1999 04:00:00

What brakes??? Are there brakes on the cars in GPL? Which button should I
press to activate them? 'B' on the keyboard perhaps? I've always used the
cars in front of me to brake - works great, until I'm in the lead... ;)))

LOL

-- Roland


Mrv

Strange review for OF1R

by Mrv » Wed, 09 Jun 1999 04:00:00

The guy is a ***en idiot.  Of course the brakes are used heavily at most
tracks.

> The review is at http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> Here is an extract which I found really really strange.

> "...The other big complaint is in the handling in races. This game just
> seems way too sensitive for my tastes, even with the computer assists on.
> Official F1 Racing really requires players to use the brake pedal to make
> some turns. This makes me want to retract my previous statement that the
> developers at Lankhor were watching real world races -- for if they were,
> they would know that most drivers don't use the brake, they downshift to
> slow up. Yes, it might wear out the transmission but these are professional
> racers, not your average 20- somethng-year-old on his way home from work, so
> burning out the transmission isn't likely since there is a whole team to
> keep the gears in top notch order..."

> Deep insight or total bollocks? Please comment. :-)

Mrv

Strange review for OF1R

by Mrv » Wed, 09 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Better yet. Stick you feet out and stop the car with your shoes.

> What a great idea......remove the brakes and just use engine compression to slow
> down. Make for some big blowups at the end of a long straight but.....

> Total bollocks me thinks........


> > The review is at http://www.gamepen.com/preview/PC/06_01_1999_343_2.asp

> > Here is an extract which I found really really strange.

> > "...The other big complaint is in the handling in races. This game just
> > seems way too sensitive for my tastes, even with the computer assists on.
> > Official F1 Racing really requires players to use the brake pedal to make
> > some turns. This makes me want to retract my previous statement that the
> > developers at Lankhor were watching real world races -- for if they were,
> > they would know that most drivers don't use the brake, they downshift to
> > slow up. Yes, it might wear out the transmission but these are professional
> > racers, not your average 20- somethng-year-old on his way home from work, so
> > burning out the transmission isn't likely since there is a whole team to
> > keep the gears in top notch order..."

> > Deep insight or total bollocks? Please comment. :-)

Ross MacGrego

Strange review for OF1R

by Ross MacGrego » Wed, 09 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Erm do i have to say? TOTAL BOLLOCKS ;o)
yours agreeingly
Ross "The Boss" Macgregor (GPL racer)


>The guy is a ***en idiot.  Of course the brakes are used heavily at most
>tracks.


>> The review is at http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> Here is an extract which I found really really strange.

>> "...The other big complaint is in the handling in races. This game just
>> seems way too sensitive for my tastes, even with the computer assists on.
>> Official F1 Racing really requires players to use the brake pedal to make
>> some turns. This makes me want to retract my previous statement that the
>> developers at Lankhor were watching real world races -- for if they were,
>> they would know that most drivers don't use the brake, they downshift to
>> slow up. Yes, it might wear out the transmission but these are
professional
>> racers, not your average 20- somethng-year-old on his way home from work,
so
>> burning out the transmission isn't likely since there is a whole team to
>> keep the gears in top notch order..."

>> Deep insight or total bollocks? Please comment. :-)

Ross MacGrego

Strange review for OF1R

by Ross MacGrego » Wed, 09 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Mark C Dodd wrote

 So how do they keep up with the car to do that?
Ross

John Walla

Strange review for OF1R

by John Walla » Wed, 09 Jun 1999 04:00:00


>The guy is a ***en idiot.  Of course the brakes are used heavily at most
>tracks.

In fairness I should say that I wrote en e-mail to the guy and he
pointed out very reasonably where he got the information from,
accepted it was incorrect and that he was in error and said he would
see about having the review changed.

Seemed in marked contrast to most responses to critical analysis, so I
think we needn't be quite so *** him.

Cheers!
John

J. P. Hovercraf

Strange review for OF1R

by J. P. Hovercraf » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

ROTFLMAO!

J. P. Hovercraft

-------------------


> What brakes??? Are there brakes on the cars in GPL? Which button should I
> press to activate them? 'B' on the keyboard perhaps? I've always used the
> cars in front of me to brake - works great, until I'm in the lead... ;)))

> LOL

> -- Roland


> >What a great idea......remove the brakes and just use engine compression to
> slow
> >down. Make for some big blowups at the end of a long straight but.....

> >Total bollocks me thinks........

J. P. Hovercraf

Strange review for OF1R

by J. P. Hovercraf » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Oh, so -that's- what the big hole in the floor under my feet in my '81 Dodge Aspen is
for. Guess I should have watched more Flintstones as a kid.....8^)

J. P. Hovercraft

---------------


> Better yet. Stick you feet out and stop the car with your shoes.


> > What a great idea......remove the brakes and just use engine compression to slow
> > down. Make for some big blowups at the end of a long straight but.....

> > Total bollocks me thinks........


> > > The review is at http://www.gamepen.com/preview/PC/06_01_1999_343_2.asp

> > > Here is an extract which I found really really strange.

> > > "...The other big complaint is in the handling in races. This game just
> > > seems way too sensitive for my tastes, even with the computer assists on.
> > > Official F1 Racing really requires players to use the brake pedal to make
> > > some turns. This makes me want to retract my previous statement that the
> > > developers at Lankhor were watching real world races -- for if they were,
> > > they would know that most drivers don't use the brake, they downshift to
> > > slow up. Yes, it might wear out the transmission but these are professional
> > > racers, not your average 20- somethng-year-old on his way home from work, so
> > > burning out the transmission isn't likely since there is a whole team to
> > > keep the gears in top notch order..."

> > > Deep insight or total bollocks? Please comment. :-)

J

Strange review for OF1R

by J » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Yeah - Fred Flintstone style  :-)

Jens


>Better yet. Stick you feet out and stop the car with your shoes.

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kimilse..

Strange review for OF1R

by kimilse.. » Sun, 27 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:01:30 +0200, "Roland Ehnstr?m"


>What brakes??? Are there brakes on the cars in GPL? Which button should I
>press to activate them? 'B' on the keyboard perhaps? I've always used the
>cars in front of me to brake - works great, until I'm in the lead... ;)))

>LOL

Ha Ha
It is not often that I laugh out loud when reading the newsgroups
but I did to this
I think because it hit too close to home

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