rec.autos.simulators

by **Larr** » Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:47:55

It's a DVD in a DVD case, with a single sheet controller guide. I just love
the first 4 commands:

Up Arrow - Accellerate
Brake - Down Arrow
Steer Left - Left Arrow
Steer Right - Right Arrow

And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims LOL

They could do a lot worse than to get rid of all this mouse/keyboard driving
crap, erradicate all the useless "digital" settings in the setup, etc...

No One races with a keyboard. Or at least I sure hope not. Anyone at this
level races on a console!

Now, the next step is to see if I like it at all. This is very much an $18
experiment for me and yes, I'm going in expecting the worst.

by **John Do** » Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:28:41

> And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims

How can anyone care when no one even knows what you're talking
about.

Is there a comedian in your head?

Can you be any more obscure?

--
The first big front wheel rollerblades.

by **PlowBo** » Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:11:40

WOW...

Love how you newbs (jdoe) find a newsgroup, that has been around for uh um
oh about 20 years, and many of us on it been around here that long as well,
yet act like none of us have a clue why we read or post... when you been
around long enough, and have reached the aged and respected role of
ridiculous moderaterous.

Fact is, John! You aint been here long enough to get half the innuendos,
let alone the outright jokes, so sit back and nip it...

I want to point out that the name of the news group is rec.autos.SIMULATORS.
Which is pretty self explanatory. It is a newsgroup (aka public bulletin
board) Wherein we talk about the latest automotive SIMULATORS, with mostly
like minded people. Yep, that simple. Yeah sometimes the topic might
stray, but I guarantee you, This aint REC.AUTOS.$hittySet top "games" you
play with tiddley wink controllers or keyboards. If you think your gonna
get pissed everyone posts about your favorite game that lets you race as
realistic as late 60's era AFX/Tyco slot cars can, then you might need to go
find the rec.games.play station-xbox-Nintendo(or whatever group, you call
it.) newsgroup where you kids can argue about how freaking 'cool' the latest
Need for speed/EA nascar/Driver/Turismo/burnout games make you all tingly...

as far as Larry, well he goes and buys stupid $hit every so often, just to
get a 'rag' on about it... but he's relatively harmless, although
opinionated... But many of us knew what he was doing.

he's bashing the rFactor's MAIN coders, ISI. they built the system that
allows 'developers' to code racing games with this "programming tool" (GTR,
GT Legends, rFactor for example). If you are a programmer, it is like
***ing about Microsoft's visual C/basic/foxpro etc just because someone's
Slot machine game or tax wizard software they built from that compiler, is
buggy or not to your liking. When I was programming, Borland was kind of
the mainstream C and C++ compiler software company not MS... ISI like MS
or Borland, for some of the racing games previously mentioned, a tool used
to produce racing Sims.

!wq

>> And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims

> How can anyone care when no one even knows what you're talking
> about.

>> LOL

> Is there a comedian in your head?

>> No One races with a keyboard. Or at least I sure hope not.
>> Anyone at this level races on a console!

> Can you be any more obscure?

> --
> The first big front wheel rollerblades.

by **John Do** » Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:07:47

> WOW...

> Love how you newbs (jdoe) find a newsgroup, that has been around
> for uh um oh about 20 years, and many of us on it been around here
> that long as well,

Is your oldest post anywhere on USENET at least 20 years old,
PlowBoy?

You've been around USENET that long PlowBoy and you still don't know
enough to post in context. Do you top post so that someone has to
read your meaningless grandstanding chest thumping bully wannabe
***before they get to the answer they are looking for?

I'll post whenever I please, PlowBoy.

Yeah, that's what groups are for, PlowBoy. You might want to tell
your boy, Larry, since apparently there are in fact many in here who
do enjoy GTR sims.

Are you trying to say that you've got the biggest steering wheel,
PlowBoy?

No. I was more like testing the waters, and trying to figure out
what ISI is supposed to mean.

I'll post wherever I please, PlowBoy.

Sounds like another personal problem, PlowBoy.

GTR Evolution is "stupid $hit"?

By the way, PlowBoy, why do you encrypt the word "shit"? A grownup
shouldn't have trouble with that IMO.

Right, PlowBoy, you're a he-man group protector and Larry is your
boy.

Still sounds cryptic. Are you trying to say that ISI is a
programming or publishing company?

by **Pete** » Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:48:53

> > And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims

> How can anyone care when no one even knows what you're talking
> about.

It's ok John, we know what he's talking about.

Sure hope so. Is there one in yours? ;-)

Only to you, John.

What was that Abraham Lincoln saying about 'better to be quiet and make
people think you're a fool?'

--
Pete Ives
Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

by **John Do** » Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:48:06

> jdoe usenetlove.invalid says...

>> > And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims

>> How can anyone care when no one even knows what you're talking
>> about.

> It's ok John, we know what he's talking about.

Obviously not everyone, or even anyone who reads this group, Peter.
Otherwise it would have been answered in the other thread when it
was first asked about.

That's what it seems like to me when someone uses "LOL" or a smiley
face in response to their own pun. Do you do a lot of giggling when
no one is around, Peter?

If you think you are smarter than I, Peter, explain how someone who
might temporarily use something other than a wheel necessarily
should be racing on a console.

You need to either finish the saying or at least include an
ellipses, Peter.

Aren't you the guy that said Richard Burns Rally is "not even close
to arcadish"? In your opinion, is it a better simulation than the
GTR series?

I get the impression some think a game must be tedious as a
programming language. But in fact tedium has nothing to do with
driving realism. That's one reason I bought GTR first, my definition
of fun doesn't include programming tasks and I've read enough
about the others.

by **Larr** » Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:09:48

Hmm.... Dunno...

by **Larr** » Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:11:25

Good job :)

-Larry

> WOW...

> Love how you newbs (jdoe) find a newsgroup, that has been around for uh um
> oh about 20 years, and many of us on it been around here that long as
> well, yet act like none of us have a clue why we read or post... when you
> been around long enough, and have reached the aged and respected role of
> ridiculous moderaterous.

> Fact is, John! You aint been here long enough to get half the innuendos,
> let alone the outright jokes, so sit back and nip it...

> I want to point out that the name of the news group is
> rec.autos.SIMULATORS. Which is pretty self explanatory. It is a newsgroup
> (aka public bulletin board) Wherein we talk about the latest automotive
> SIMULATORS, with mostly like minded people. Yep, that simple. Yeah
> sometimes the topic might stray, but I guarantee you, This aint
> REC.AUTOS.$hittySet top "games" you play with tiddley wink controllers or
> keyboards. If you think your gonna get pissed everyone posts about your
> favorite game that lets you race as realistic as late 60's era AFX/Tyco
> slot cars can, then you might need to go find the rec.games.play
> station-xbox-Nintendo(or whatever group, you call it.) newsgroup where you
> kids can argue about how freaking 'cool' the latest Need for speed/EA
> nascar/Driver/Turismo/burnout games make you all tingly...

> as far as Larry, well he goes and buys stupid $hit every so often, just to
> get a 'rag' on about it... but he's relatively harmless, although
> opinionated... But many of us knew what he was doing.

> he's bashing the rFactor's MAIN coders, ISI. they built the system that
> allows 'developers' to code racing games with this "programming tool"
> (GTR, GT Legends, rFactor for example). If you are a programmer, it is
> like ***ing about Microsoft's visual C/basic/foxpro etc just because
> someone's Slot machine game or tax wizard software they built from that
> compiler, is buggy or not to your liking. When I was programming, Borland
> was kind of the mainstream C and C++ compiler software company not MS...
> ISI like MS or Borland, for some of the racing games previously mentioned,
> a tool used to produce racing Sims.

by **David Fisher's Left Testicl** » Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:24:36

Shut it, you cunt. Larry shouldn't speak in code, in public and then moan
when the public don't understand.

> WOW...

> Love how you newbs (jdoe) find a newsgroup, that has been around for uh um
> oh about 20 years, and many of us on it been around here that long as
> well, yet act like none of us have a clue why we read or post... when you
> been around long enough, and have reached the aged and respected role of
> ridiculous moderaterous.

> Fact is, John! You aint been here long enough to get half the innuendos,
> let alone the outright jokes, so sit back and nip it...

> I want to point out that the name of the news group is
> rec.autos.SIMULATORS. Which is pretty self explanatory. It is a newsgroup
> (aka public bulletin board) Wherein we talk about the latest automotive
> SIMULATORS, with mostly like minded people. Yep, that simple. Yeah
> sometimes the topic might stray, but I guarantee you, This aint
> REC.AUTOS.$hittySet top "games" you play with tiddley wink controllers or
> keyboards. If you think your gonna get pissed everyone posts about your
> favorite game that lets you race as realistic as late 60's era AFX/Tyco
> slot cars can, then you might need to go find the rec.games.play
> station-xbox-Nintendo(or whatever group, you call it.) newsgroup where you
> kids can argue about how freaking 'cool' the latest Need for speed/EA
> nascar/Driver/Turismo/burnout games make you all tingly...

> as far as Larry, well he goes and buys stupid $hit every so often, just to
> get a 'rag' on about it... but he's relatively harmless, although
> opinionated... But many of us knew what he was doing.

> he's bashing the rFactor's MAIN coders, ISI. they built the system that
> allows 'developers' to code racing games with this "programming tool"
> (GTR, GT Legends, rFactor for example). If you are a programmer, it is
> like ***ing about Microsoft's visual C/basic/foxpro etc just because
> someone's Slot machine game or tax wizard software they built from that
> compiler, is buggy or not to your liking. When I was programming, Borland
> was kind of the mainstream C and C++ compiler software company not MS...
> ISI like MS or Borland, for some of the racing games previously mentioned,
> a tool used to produce racing Sims.

> !wq

>>> And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims

>> How can anyone care when no one even knows what you're talking
>> about.

>>> LOL

>> Is there a comedian in your head?

>>> No One races with a keyboard. Or at least I sure hope not.
>>> Anyone at this level races on a console!

>> Can you be any more obscure?

>> --
>> The first big front wheel rollerblades.

by **jeffarei** » Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:52:18

"No One" must be an LFS fan, since a lot of them race with a keyboard,
and LFS has a reputation for being an elitist group.

by **Pete** » Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:43:29

> > jdoe usenetlove.invalid says...

> >> > And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims

> >> How can anyone care when no one even knows what you're talking
> >> about.

> > It's ok John, we know what he's talking about.

> Obviously not everyone, or even anyone who reads this group, Peter.
> Otherwise it would have been answered in the other thread when it
> was first asked about.

Sorry, can't recall which thread you're refering to.

However, you know that those methods have been used on usenet, probably
since it began, and why they're there. How many times have arguments
started over a comment that was taken the wrong way when it was stated
in jest?

Just a throwaway remark, IMO.

I wish I could answer that. Unfortunately, I don't have any of the GTR
series. My times taken up with sim racing these days is far reduced,
compared to in years gone by, but I still enjoy reading up on the what's
hot and what's not, even if I don't have the opportunity to try for
myself. Take Iracing. What I've read here, has certainly generated an
urge for me to try it out at some stage.

Realism is paramount. Agreed. But that should come from the
driving/racing experience, mostly. I'm not sure how that can be
construed as tedious, though. From a personal perspective, I get a
whole lot more satisfaction playing those driving/racing games that make
me feel that I'm having to 'make an effort', similar to if I was in a
real world vehicle. When I play games where whatever you do doesn't
provide that, or mistakes don't have consequences, then I soon lose
interest. Hey, if I had the money, do think I would be playing sims?
Hell no! I'd be doing the real thing.

--
Pete Ives
Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

by **Rod** » Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:00:05

>It's a DVD in a DVD case, with a single sheet controller guide. I just love
>the first 4 commands:

>Up Arrow - Accellerate
>Brake - Down Arrow
>Steer Left - Left Arrow
>Steer Right - Right Arrow

>And folks wonder why I just can't get into ISI based sims LOL

>They could do a lot worse than to get rid of all this mouse/keyboard driving
>crap, erradicate all the useless "digital" settings in the setup, etc...

>No One races with a keyboard. Or at least I sure hope not. Anyone at this
>level races on a console!

>Now, the next step is to see if I like it at all. This is very much an $18
>experiment for me and yes, I'm going in expecting the worst.

It just makes the game accessible, doesn't diminish what the game
represents.

I steamed it. Haven't been bothered to unpack my wheel so I did a few
laps by keyboard. I'm looking forward to the point where I get off my
lazy arse and unpack my wheel. :P

Cheers,
Rod.

by **Larr** » Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:46:39

I didn't moan. I'm quite happy...

BTW.... Nice manners.

-Larry

by **PlowBoy** » Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:22:50

there are elitists in the game The SIMS as well, doesn't mean it is even
slightly realistic...

by **PlowBoy** » Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:24:53

I knew you would "get it" and as sure as I post, I knew he wouldn't.

So Larry, are you gonna test that GTR with a keyboard and write us a review?
<VBG>.

> Good job :)

> -Larry

>> WOW...

>> Love how you newbs (jdoe) find a newsgroup, that has been around for uh
>> um oh about 20 years, and many of us on it been around here that long as
>> well, yet act like none of us have a clue why we read or post... when
>> you been around long enough, and have reached the aged and respected role
>> of ridiculous moderaterous.

>> Fact is, John! You aint been here long enough to get half the innuendos,
>> let alone the outright jokes, so sit back and nip it...

>> I want to point out that the name of the news group is
>> rec.autos.SIMULATORS. Which is pretty self explanatory. It is a
>> newsgroup (aka public bulletin board) Wherein we talk about the latest
>> automotive SIMULATORS, with mostly like minded people. Yep, that simple.
>> Yeah sometimes the topic might stray, but I guarantee you, This aint
>> REC.AUTOS.$hittySet top "games" you play with tiddley wink controllers or
>> keyboards. If you think your gonna get pissed everyone posts about your
>> favorite game that lets you race as realistic as late 60's era AFX/Tyco
>> slot cars can, then you might need to go find the rec.games.play
>> station-xbox-Nintendo(or whatever group, you call it.) newsgroup where
>> you kids can argue about how freaking 'cool' the latest Need for speed/EA
>> nascar/Driver/Turismo/burnout games make you all tingly...

>> as far as Larry, well he goes and buys stupid $hit every so often, just
>> to get a 'rag' on about it... but he's relatively harmless, although
>> opinionated... But many of us knew what he was doing.

>> he's bashing the rFactor's MAIN coders, ISI. they built the system that
>> allows 'developers' to code racing games with this "programming tool"
>> (GTR, GT Legends, rFactor for example). If you are a programmer, it is
>> like ***ing about Microsoft's visual C/basic/foxpro etc just because
>> someone's Slot machine game or tax wizard software they built from that
>> compiler, is buggy or not to your liking. When I was programming,
>> Borland was kind of the mainstream C and C++ compiler software company
>> not MS... ISI like MS or Borland, for some of the racing games previously
>> mentioned, a tool used to produce racing Sims.

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