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But again this article is spreading the "myth":
"OK, if you take into account that the GPL engine really is very
difficult to drive and that casual drivers would find it impossible to
enjoy this new game."

Once again, the "physics" engine used in Grand Prix Legends isn't
difficult to drive!  The implementation of the engine when configured to
model 1967 era Formula 1 cars is extremely challenging to drive.  Not
difficult, challening.  And it's not the engine that is challenging, but
the cars that are being simulated.  Please seperate the two.

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pez

Jesse Black

|I totally agree, there are too many people who think that it must be
|difficult to drive if it uses the gpl engine, but its the 67gp car thats
|tricky, the engine could model a go kart, and that would be nice and easy
to
|drive....now theres an idea for a cheap and cheerfull
|sim.....................
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|pez
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I really feel the claims about the difficulty of GPL have been GREATLY
exaggerated.  I had a much harder time learning to drive GP2 with no steering
help, believe it or not.

Dave Ewing

"Racing has changed a lot since I started.  The cars are faster and more
streamlined with more powerful engines and better fuel and oil.  Tyres are
wider and the negative lift from aerofoils,. have put up cornering speeds.
The brakes are better, too, allowing drivers to go deeper at the end of
straights before they have to brake.  Drivers have to concentrate harder and
the driving is a much finer balancing act than it was.  You could be rougher
with the older types of cars and get away with it.  Nowadays the driving has
to be more accurate and precise."

Graham Hill (1975)

Seeing that he had experience of driving front and mid engine cars, those
with and without downforce I have to say that what he had to say on the
subject holds up better than anything we might wish to argue.

Matthew.

When you have someone like Hill comparing the cars remember he is a
driver of enormous talent. The 1967 cars lose grip much more gradually
than the 1974 slick-shod beasts, and therefore would be easier to
drive. For us the same would probably be true, and we would find that
if a 1994 F1 car was properly modelled then it too would be _very_
difficult to drive at or near the limit.

Cheers!
John

Graham Hill certainly knows a lot, but shouldn't we ask a person that
- as a driver has won GPs in 3 different decades plus 3 world
championships
- as car constructor (co-)developed cars in 3 different decades with
great success
- and is still alive?

Papy did. ;-)

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Matthias Flatt

OK, I give.  Who is it?

-Stewart?  Don't know if he's developed cars in three different decades
-Gurney?   Don't know if he's won GP's in three different decaded
-Brabham?  My best guess.

-Chris-

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OK, I give.  Who is it?

-Stewart?  Don't know if he's developed cars in three different decades
-Gurney?   Don't know if he's won GP's in three different decades
-Brabham?  My best guess.

-Chris-

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    I'd take a guess that you're after S. Moss?  I just seen him running a
car at the Historic race at the Glen last year, Or the Porche 50th at the
Glen last year (don't remember which)

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